Game Guides Archive
Thread: In all seriousness, though...
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OrionSeven
Sat Nov 06, 2004 2:00 am
#1
Yeah, that "SWG is Awesome" thread was a joke.
But, I got a serious question?
Why are all the opinionated threads being deleted?
Sure, some of them are just infantile rantings and ravings by people who want an "I WIN" button. Those should be deleted. But my thread about the new Loot Upgrade was the exact opposite. I put a lot of thought into it, andI discussed the affect it would have on the "metagame" of SWG.
It was completely unfair of the moderators to delete that thread. And it was completely inappropriate for them to delete it as well.
If the developers aren't going to promote well thought-out opinions, for good or ill, then there is no reason... NO REASON AT ALL to even post on these forums. Other than threads like mine, the entire forums are populated with "I pwned you" threads. and "I hate so and so" threads.. Nothing but hatred and flames.
The moderators could have been adult about it as well, and at least PM'd me with a reason why my thread was deleted. And not with one of their stupid "text book" responses about the thread "not being constructive".
That would be a lie!!! It was far beyond constructive. It was intelligent, and patient, and even humorous in places.
YOU PEOPLE NEED TO START TAKING PLAYER FEEDBACK MORE SERIOUSLY!!!!!
So. Garva, or whoever deleted my thread. Do me a favor, be an adult, and PM me with a reason... an intelligent, thought-out reason... why my thread was deleted.
If you don't, I'm sure a lot of us will just continue to assume that you are basically controlling any constructive negative feedback you are getting. And the world doesn't work like that.
Let me tell you moderators something... Grown ups talk through issues. Only children scream "shut up!! It's my way or no way!!!". If you want us to respect you, treat us like adults.
Kyodor
Sat Nov 06, 2004 2:10 am
#2
I wouldn't stereotype the moderators for what one may have did, but I do agree if they're going to delete something, at least give a reason. If you just delete it, the person has no idea if it was off topic, inappropriate language, or just "negative comments".
Deleting something dosen't fix the problem, not normally; but rather makes it worse. I'll have to agree with you on this one.
Deleting something dosen't fix the problem, not normally; but rather makes it worse. I'll have to agree with you on this one.
Marcalus
Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:42 am
#3
Did you actually post in the In Dev section where the loot upgrade is being discussed? Or you just made your own thread here?
Honestly, posts in this forum are supposed to be guides/requests for help on stuff already in game.
Just a thought.
Are you certain your post wasn't moved? Check your profile and do a lookup of all posts by you.
Honestly, posts in this forum are supposed to be guides/requests for help on stuff already in game.
Just a thought.
Are you certain your post wasn't moved? Check your profile and do a lookup of all posts by you.
Spacer619
Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:41 pm
#4
I've seen many forums getdeleted due to criticism. The problem is that they were all flame and no "constructive criticism". If you are going to fire at the Devs, you better have something to say about making the game betterorits likely itwill be removed. Just saying the game is messed up doesn't do anyone any good. They aren't interested inopinions - they are interested in opinionsthat would improve gameplay.
SuiRyu
Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:42 pm
#5
Spacer619 wrote:
I've seen many forums getdeleted due to criticism. The problem is that they were all flame and no "constructive criticism". If you are going to fire at the Devs, you better have something to say about making the game betterorits likely itwill be removed. Just saying the game is messed up doesn't do anyone any good. They aren't interested inopinions - they are interested in opinionsthat would improve gameplay.
Ive seen many constructive ideas deleted.
Spacer619
Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:59 pm
#6
True. That does happen. Also it may not be the post but the replies that causes it to bedeleted or locked. I remember a while back that EVERY post that suggested removing Jedis got deleted. That was alot of opinions, constructive criticisms, and flames that theSOE did not what to see.
OrionSeven
Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:07 am
#7
Spacer619 wrote:
I've seen many forums getdeleted due to criticism. The problem is that they were all flame and no "constructive criticism". If you are going to fire at the Devs, you better have something to say about making the game betterorits likely itwill be removed. Just saying the game is messed up doesn't do anyone any good. They aren't interested inopinions - they are interested in opinionsthat would improve gameplay.
Actually, I did suggest some constructive things. I made a mention that part of the new Loot upgrade would devastate our economy. And I didn't just scream "Take it out, you stupid n00b devs!!". I merely suggested that they think twice. I let them know that even though they had a really interesting idea, we as a player base would twist it into something that would cause credits to pour into the game, just to afford new "loot-crafted" weapons.
I also made mention that the single-use items were excellent ideas, as were the temporary items.
I tried to let them know a side of their Idea that they might not have seen. And it got deleted. Darn shame, too. It was the post I was most proud of. I put a lot of thought, and effort into it.
At least I've learned my lesson, though. Nowadays, I copy and paste every single one of my important posts into a notepad on my desktop. If the devs delete something that I feel is Intelligent and thought-out, I can easily repost it word for word.
Spacer619
Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:18 am
#8
They did create a vicious cycle to promote the Reverse Engineering capability of the Shipwrights to make the Firespray.I'm not aShipwrightso I just end up with alot of useless ship components in my inventory. The Shipwright in my guild can makebetter components than what I have looted. I like the idea of limited uses for looted ship components.Also maybe add a conditionto crafted components like what ground weapons and armor have. That wouldensurethatShipwrights maintain a place in the galaxy.
That's a good idea to back-up your posts. I have participated inpoint/counterpoint discussionsbefore just to seethem disappear as the forums got deleted. There are a few times I wished I had saved the post off to the side so I could made them intoa seperate post.
GarVa
Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:24 am
#9
This is a game guide forum, its not the "this is my opinion you better listen" forum.
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