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Thread: Dantooine solo groups- what's wrong with you people?

Alaro
Fri Nov 12, 2004 2:23 pm
#14


I'm a bit amazed that folks don't seem to understand how annoying this can be when some clown invites you up to 17 times, spamming you with invites, it get to the point where I have to file a harrassment complaint? No, I hate to get folks banned or in trouble even if it's begging for it on bended knee. I once was in this cantina and I needed Musician wound healing 2 and this totally annoying creepspammed me about 20 times over the period of 20 minutes with offers to teach me Dancer's Fatigue 2 in an effort to try to TRICK me into learning something I did not want to learn at that time. It took three tells asking him to knock it off, and finally a group say to with the words "Hey you in the group that keeps spamming me with your offer to teach me Dancer's healing 2 when I want to learn Music healing 4 first, in an effort to trick me into accepting your offer, I'm warning you, if you do it again, I will reveal your name to the group and I will file a harrassment report against you!"


That stopped the problem quick! I hate to bear ill will, and hard feeling but there comes a time when enough is enough.


Now, I tend to hit the wrong button a LOT and I didn't do this when he was spamming me, but I would have turned this jerk in for harrassment had I hit the yes by mistake. Nobody has the right to pester people with things like this!


One reason, I tend to get annoyed by invites, is that I am not physically well, they dunno why, but that it possibly has to do with an inherited blood disorder that is potentially fatal, but a lot of the time, I group, but here are times when I'm not feeling right, and I have no idea if I'm going to be able to be sitting up in 20 minutes, and I hate to be the party pooper, and have to leave especially if I'm the group doctor. I would feel bad doing this, and it's not fair for me to join up, and then have to leave. I give you an example absolutely true! .... The monday before last, I was on with my entertainer character training up dancing and all of a sudden, one of these spells hit me like a ton of bricks!! It was 10 times worse than anything ever before. I got up, I took two steps and crumbled to the floor and there I lay for 3 hours barely conscious!. Finally, I was able to grab the keyboard and call for help, for I could not get up, and I could not reach the phone from where I lay. No, the doctors still don't know what is going on. Sigh!


I especially feel empathetic towards this fellow's post because I had the same problem in Dark Ages of Camelot. I had a level 50 bard on a PvE only server, and they can res, they can travel fast and confer this ability on any group they are inand heal, andthis was what I wished to do, so I was spent most of my time in the Hibernia section of this dungeon called darkness falls and one day, I noticed that a lot of folks were dying in the Alb section of the dungeon so I made the long trek to that section, and started ressing, rescuing and healing to my heart's content.


Well, I got there, and it was pure hell. Here is what happened ....


1. One fellow started spamming me with about20 invites, to join up with me because he wanted me to set aside 20 minutes to run him to some city and back. I am not a bus service. I came there to res and help out many players, not spend 20 minutes running some stubborn fool who would not get the hint, when I had to ask him over and over "What part of NO do you not understand?".


I put him on my ignore list but it still let his spamming windows pop up over and over, like those internet sites we all hate that spam you with pop ups of often disgusting images till you have no choice but to reset the computer to regain control!


I ended up having to ask him in public to stop spamming me with his invites, complain to his guild leaders and mention his name on the public channel before he finally stopped!!


2. Some level 50 necromancer spammed me with close to 80 invites, over and over, and tells too asking me to join his group killing level 30 critters, that were so low, that by my very presence in the group would prevent anyone in the group from getting exp or loot at all! Why, even the presence of himself, negated any chance for exp gain but this guy would not leave me alone till I had to again, publicly in broadcast ask him to knock it off and send in a complaint to his guild leaders. No, I did not file harrassment.


I could go on and on, but I literally found myself unable to function because I kept getting these invites.


One of my favorite tricks was to just drag a invite spammer's window off screen and not respond, in that case he would be unable to invite anyone else until I responded, but this runs the risk of getting a complaint to a CSR when all I was trying to do was regain control of the game.


In conclusion, I would like to say, that we all have things that bug more than they should, and often we ourselves don't know why they bug us so, but they just do. There are also probably things that bug other people that don't bother us at all. Such is life, and an inescapable aspect of who we are as imperfect beings.


In short, all I'm asking I guess, is to try to keep in mind, that what may not bother you might bother others, for reasons that they nor you can figure out, and there are things that may bother you that don't bother us. In short, just try to show a bit of understanding, compassion and *Empathy*. The more empathy you show others, the more you deserve.


To those who don't understand why this bothers him/her... The whole world is full of things that don't make sense, that are hard or even impossible to understand, but they still are. An old mentor of mine called it the "Isness Principle" - If something exists that you don't understand, just accept it's "Isness". It may be impossible to understand, it just "IS".


Too many people fail to show empathy because they have destroyed that aspect of themselves, for other things that feel more fun to them like putting other people down so they can rise to the top. Final thought, Scum on a pond may alway rise to the top too, but what worth is it?


Message Edited by Alaro on 11-12-2004 01:34 PM

Alaro
Fri Nov 12, 2004 2:39 pm
#15






Last_of_the_Jedi_Knights wrote:





WylotheUber wrote:

Believe it or not, people spamming /invite to random people IS a problem for some people. You see, if I'm in a laggy area such as the Mining Outpost, I may be facing downwards just to avoid some of the lag. Now, if I'm about to board a shuttle, and some inconsiderate moron decides torandomly toss an invite my way, then the popup lags my computer to death, forcing lag on me for ten seconds as the new interaction begins to synchronize with my PC. This makes me lose my chance to board a shuttle because somebody decided that I need a solo group, and didn't want to send a lag-free /tell. These are some of the problems that happen with this sort of thing.






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Jabegea
Fri Nov 12, 2004 3:36 pm
#16

Wow....you must be a busy person to not have time to move your mouse over to the NO button, then click that button. I mean really what is your problem? You didn't really make it clear in your statement, although you tried to. Great another noob whiner. Thats all this game needs is more whiners. People like you that come on the forums, to whine about every little annoyance that bothers them. are what is wrong with this game. Oh and yes, this is a well deserved flame.



fJabegeaf
Force = Mass x Acceleration
So I guess everyone is force sensitive


Jabegea
Fri Nov 12, 2004 3:37 pm
#17

And yes there is a command, i believe /autodecline (not sure) and there is also an option in ctrl-o to auto decline groups. Now was that so hard?



fJabegeaf
Force = Mass x Acceleration
So I guess everyone is force sensitive


Jabegea
Fri Nov 12, 2004 3:56 pm
#18






PixellJ wrote:

What the hell is rocket surgery?






rofl!



fJabegeaf
Force = Mass x Acceleration
So I guess everyone is force sensitive


ErikModi
Fri Nov 12, 2004 4:04 pm
#19

Well, despite the unwarranted flame, I will respond to the points within.

WHat's my problem? My problem is that it annoys me. Why? It simply does. Explain to me why my having an opinion apparently annoys you.

I already stated in my post, had you bothered to actually understand it, that yes, clicking "No" isn't much of a chore. . . I'd simply rather not have to.

I am not a noob, and I already stated that I am NOT whining. And I also already stated that, if you think I'm whining, that's NOT my problem. I came here to open a CONSTRUCTIVE discussion on a phenomena I've noticed and found irritating. Instead, about all I here from the "invite everyone" camp is flames and insults. Helping your case, you are not.

And people like ME are not what's wrong with this game. People like YOU, Jabega, who's debate technique is limited to insulting the other person's intelligence, opinion, playing style, and probably parentage if you get the chance, are what's wrong.

Again, I repeat: I have in no way intended insult or disrepect to those who hold the opposing opinion. But all I've heard from you is disrespect for MY opinion, and even my right to HAVE that opinion.

Apparently, the kinds of people who form solo groups are not people I would choose to associate with. Were I even interested in joining solo groups in general, the attitude I've seen so far has only shown me that I shouldn't.
ErikModi
Fri Nov 12, 2004 4:14 pm
#20

And I have already addressed my thoughs on autodecline. Move along, move along.
Jabegea
Fri Nov 12, 2004 4:32 pm
#21

Move along? C'mon dude. Gimme break. You are nothing but a miserable whiner who will never amount to anything in this game, because instead of avoiding a situation that annoys you (while thousands of others seem to not be bothered by this), you come to the forums to try to find other whiners who feel the same way you do. I too have a house on Dant, rightnext tothe outpost. I go there every couple days, Do you know how many timesI'vegone through the outpost and been invited to join a group? Well, I lost count. But see the difference between me youis that instead of posting some lame attempt at sounding intelligent and trying to make a valid point when there is no point to be made, I move my mouse over and click no. Other times I'lljoin the solo group, even when Im not doing missions just so they can fill it up. Maybe after you graduate high school, you can come back and realize what detrimental effects you have on this game by whining about nothing, until then, good luck with puberty. Yeah and really, please explain to us all what rocket surgery is? Enlighten us whiner.



fJabegeaf
Force = Mass x Acceleration
So I guess everyone is force sensitive


Jabegea
Fri Nov 12, 2004 4:51 pm
#22





And since I'm probably going to have to explain Yogi Berra. . .

Yogi Berra, actually named Lorenzo Pietro Berra, was a baseball player. He played catcher for both the New York Mets and Yankees, and managed both teams (not sure on timelines for this, I dont' follow baseball that much.) Anyway, despite being a fantastic ballplayer, he's more famous for his verbal gaffes. Some of them are extremely wise, when you think about them, such as: "You got to be careful if you don't know where you're going, because you might not get there," "You give a hundred percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left," or "I wish I had an answer to that because I'm tired of answering that question." Others are just wierd, like "If you can't imitate him, don't copy him," "If I didn't wake up, I'd still be sleeping," or

Yogi: (to a lost Joe Garagiola) Where are you?
Joe: Some guy says to tell you I'm at the library.
Yogi: Oh, you ain't too far, just a couple of blocks. Only don't go that way, come this way.

Yogi is featured in an Afflac commercial. He's in the barbershop confusing the duck with such phrases as "If you get hurt and miss work, it doesn't hurt to miss work" and "And they give you cash, which is just as good as money."




Sorry man but this was just too weird. Did you do a book report on him last year? And yet again another opinion you should have kept to yourself.






fJabegeaf
Force = Mass x Acceleration
So I guess everyone is force sensitive


ShineKnuckle
Fri Nov 12, 2004 5:00 pm
#23

Here's a brilliant idea.


Find the /command for autodeclining, and write a macro that toggles it on, then toggles it off after five minutes. Given the length of shuttle waits, this will ALWAYS result in your group settings going back to normal by the time you shuttle.


I'm not going to make any comments about the meat of your posts. I'd get banned from the forums in about ten seconds.




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Alaro
Fri Nov 12, 2004 5:19 pm
#24






Jabegea wrote:

Wow....you must be a busy person to not have time to move your mouse over to the NO button, then click that button. I mean really what is your problem? You didn't really make it clear in your statement, although you tried to. Great another noob whiner. Thats all this game needs is more whiners. People like you that come on the forums, to whine about every little annoyance that bothers them. are what is wrong with this game. Oh and yes, this is a well deserved flame.





Yes, you are correct that it does not take much effort to say no, but I kinda hate to seem unfriendly and I kind of hate to turn folks down, but if you read my post, if I had to explain why I'm not feeling up to grouping at the time, you might agree with me when I say, I don't really want to have to make some big long macro that explains things in detail.


Perhaps that is a factor. I have to wonder why his post seems to bother you so. I have noticed that the only time someone's complaining bothers me is if I'm in some sort of issue that has pushed me so close to the edge that hearing even a baby crying is like cats scratching on a blackboard.


In your case, tho, You don't seem to be *that* upset by this, Interestingly, I noticed you didn't call me a whiner even tho I agree with his feelings about it. On the other hand, I can empathize with those who don't want to read any complaints about the game.


I can imagine what kind of a bummer it can be when you turn on the computer because you need some R&R and a bit of a destraction, and it seems that all you see are complaints.


I find it more of a bummer tho, to read someone flaming someone else, especially when I got the feeling that the flamer is clever enough to make the point without the flames by saying something like this ....


"Your post seems to be such a trivial matter to me, and I am finding so much in-game and in-forum complaining that it's getting on my nerves! I dunno why, it just does much like how you feel about unwanted invites get on your nerves and you don't know why.


Also, your subject is a bit mean-spirited - Saying'What's wrong with your people?' is rather offensive and sounds like an accusationand would naturally put people off even before they read your message, and you fail to acknowledge the fact that maybe there isn't anything wrong with them, but that they just don't know it bothers you. Most people come to this game to enjoythe company of others or to theforums to enjoy reading what others have to say and all I can say is, I found your subject line a bit harsh, It seemed like such a minor complaint, and I found it quite annoying to read, and yet, I found myself reading it clear through and it was not pleasant for me.


Please, next time you have something to complain about, try to be a bit less blunt about it and try to keep in mind that people do things in this game that irritate others all the time, and I betcha that most of the time it's not intentional.


Perhaps if you had just said in the subject line "Hey, folks, I find this really irritating, and I just need to get it out. Thanks!" If you had done that, you would have probably not have gotten so many negative reactions."


To Jabega: I found your flaming annoying, but /shrug, that's my problem. I try to avoid flaming, and I've found flaming a rather rare thing on these forums compared to others and I find this a refreshing change, that I would hate to see go away. There isn't a single person, in this entire game I wish ill of, and I hope that this reply here, hasn't bothered you any. I've been accused of whining a lot in the past, but interestingly, not lately, which I guess is because if I say something that I don't like about the game or others, I try to lighten it up a bit by saying something ppl will enjoy. So ... I guess it's time for me to put something in this message that is funny - I hope! LOL!



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Jabegea
Fri Nov 12, 2004 5:31 pm
#25

No your posts dont bother me in the least. Ialso try to avoid flaming people. But I've just gotten fed up with people who feel that just because something bothers them, they need to let the world know. Day after day, I read the same posts from the same type of person who continually whine about their experience in this game. It just gets old. Im sure it also gets old to many people reading flame after flame. Oh well. This post in particular doesn't bother me so, it is just the culmination of many posts like this.


Anywaaaaays....................



fJabegeaf
Force = Mass x Acceleration
So I guess everyone is force sensitive


ErikModi
Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:18 pm
#26

Then do NOT take your ire out on ME. Look at every other post I've made here. I have complained about NOTHING else. I simply chose to bring up ONE issue that annoyed me. And YOU proceed to insult me.

If you don't like the post, fine. Don't read it. You don't like what I have to say? Fine, don't listen to. I honestly don't care. But the fact that you feel some kind of compulsion to flame me over a topic you claim you don't even want to look it in the first place leads me to believe that you are the kind of person with no ego of your own. Your only satisfaction comes from belittling others (I've known many like you in my time.) You take shots at my age, level of education, and status, without knowing anything about any of them. You claim you try not to flame, yet the only thing I've heard out of you is insults, both to my opinion and to me personally, while I have tried to be polite and respectful to you and yours.

And here's the real kicker. . . you tell me to knock off my "whining" and suffer through the unwanted group invites. If you'll actually PAY ATTENTION to my first post, you'll see that I admitted in black and white to everyone that I would probably wind up doing just that. But what is your justification for flaming me? Let's see. . .



Jabegea wrote:
No your posts dont bother me in the least. I also try to avoid flaming people. But I've just gotten fed up with people who feel that just because something bothers them, they need to let the world know. Day after day, I read the same posts from the same type of person who continually whine about their experience in this game. It just gets old. Im sure it also gets old to many people reading flame after flame. Oh well. This post in particular doesn't bother me so, it is just the culmination of many posts like this.
Anywaaaaays....................





Hmmm. . . sounds like you want me to go away and stop annoying you, because you don't want me to inflict my opinion on you, without you asking for it. . .

Explain to me why I need to just shut up and put up with people inflicting group invites on me, while you get to say rude, insulting, and uneducated things about me inflicting my opinion on you. Which, by the way, I did not. I simply posted my thoughts. I certainly did not make you read them.
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