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Okay, despite the somewhat antagonistic title (which is mostly a JOKE) and what is probably going to be a very belligerent-sounding post, I want to make something abundantly clear right now. I am NOT trying to flame anyone. I am NOT trying to antagonize people, and I am NOT trying act like a dranit. I am simply pointing out something that, in my opinion, is very annoying.

I have several characters on several different galaxies. Some of them live on Dantooine, others are currently working on the Rebel missions from there, still others will be travelling that path eventually.

So, it happens that I'm frequently passing through the Dantooine Mining Outpost. Why? Because it's there, and because I can't land at the Imperial Outpost (which some of my characters would prefer to). Maybe I'm there to get a Rebel mission. Maybe I'm dropping off salvage for my shipwright guildmate. Maybe I'm picking up new parts from that same shipwright. Maybe I'm hunting quenkers. Maybe I'm picking up something from my house. Maybe I'm dropping something off in my house. Maybe I'm just stopping to smell the pretty purple flowers. In any event, what's the first thing I see when I load in? Aside from the beautiful Dantooine scenery (kudos, Devs, BTW) and the crowds of people in the spaceport (if you can call it that), I frequently, especially during peak times, see a funny little window in my screen. . .

(Soandso) invites you to join a group. Do wish to accept? [No] [Yes]

Hmmm. I don't think I asked to join a group. Scrolling back through my chat shows that, indeed, nowhere did I say "Looking for solo group." I wasn't asked if I wanted to join a group. Scrolling back through chat confirms that, too. I am not currently interested in joining a group. So why does this person think I am? Mousewheeling back confirms that, indeed, I am not wearing my "Invite me to your group plz" commemorative T-shirt. So what gives?

Again, I reiterate that I am NOT trying to be antagonistic. I'm trying to be at least vaugely humorous about something that is quite annoying.

And make no mistake, this is quite annoying. If I had wanted to be in a solo group, I would have asked to join a solo group. This is not a leap of great logic. It is quite safe to assume that, of someone does want to join such a group, they will express interest in doing so.

Now, I already know some of the ripostes by those of whom I speak. I've heard some of them, others are simply obvious.

I don't have time to wait for people to load. Yes, you probably do. If you don't have time to wait for me to load, then you don't have time to stand there waiting for more people to come along and join your group.

Well, how was I supposed to know you didn't want to join? Well, because, I didn't ask. Again, not rocket surgery.

Most groups are formed by people being invited without asking. Well, you know, give them a chance to ask, and they probably will. Yeah, you saved them ten seconds of typing. Whoopee. Meanwhile, you're annoying those of us who are just passing through.

You can decline. Yes, I can. Yes, I do. It would still be nice to not be conscripted.

You only have to press a button. Big whoop. Yeah, it's only one button press. And no, that slight mouse movement isn't going break my wrist, or give me carpal tunnel for the rest of my life, or cause me to sweat blood. But it is annoying.

Who says I didn't ask? I asked you with the invite!! No, you didn't. Asking would be "Say, You Guy. You want to join my solo group?" To which I, being a polite person, would say "No, thank you. But good luck, and don't get dead." To which a polite person responds "No problem. Take care!" or a mostly polite person simply moves on to the next target (the rude person proceeds to invite anyway.) (And yes, I have had people actually ASK me, in /say or /tell, if I wanted to join. Sadly, they seem to have gone the way of the dodo.)

Now, granted that this isn't as bad, as, say, EQ. I have yet to, in SWG, decline the same invitation more then once, as the person decided that OBVIOUSLY I must want to join his group, so I must have declined by mistake. . . he did it again? Well, anyone can frell up twice in a row. . . three times? He must not know how to accept, I'll give him another try to figure it out. . . oh, again? Well, I'll tell him to hit "yes" so he can finally join my uber leetness. . . and again with the no? Well, maybe he'll get it right this time. . .

And again, I reiterate that I'm not trying to be a dranit about this. I hightly doubt this bad habit will ever change. And if it turns out that what I suspect is a minority opinion turns out to be a singular one, then I'll just choke it up, and be always ready with alt-mouse-no combination when landing on the pretty purple planet. . .

Again, I insist that NO FLAMES ARE INTENDED. I'm sure I'll get some back, but I want to make it clear that I do not intend to insult anyone.

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ErikModi wrote:
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Well, you know, give them a chance to ask, and they probably will. Yeah, you saved them ten seconds of typing. Whoopee.

You only have to press a button. Big whoop. Yeah, it's only one button press. And no, that slight mouse movement isn't going break my wrist, or give me carpal tunnel for the rest of my life, or cause me to sweat blood.

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Oh no you have to press a button, hold on; "Someone call the Marines!"

I don't even do this but your post was the biggest waste of time I've seen in a long time. If this is the biggest problem in your life you should consider yourself very fortunate. People need peeps for their group and 9 times outta 10 someone shuttling to the MO is looking for a solo group. If that leader hesitates he could lose the person to another group. I cannot believe the level of whining that this game has gotten to. No wonder society is going to sh!t.

Message Edited by Last_of_the_Jedi_Knights on 11-12-2004 09:23 AM

I'm NOT whining. I don't whine. And frankly, if you think I'm whining, that's YOUR problem.

And no, I don't want the Devs to do anything. This is not THEIR problem, it's MY problem. I simply thought I'd voice it and see what the reaction was.

And I have to say, I'm surprised. I figured I'd at least get something resembling civil responses. Instead, I get people telling me I'm a whiner, I'm stupid, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Now, as I said, I fully expected my opinion to be in the minority here. But I demand at least the basic respect of being allowed to HAVE my opinion. I made very sure, in my original post, to state that I am not interested in torquing anyone off, that I simply wanted to state my opinion. I even closed with the admission that I was probably not going to change anything, and just have to chalk it up to annoying things I have to put up with in life. Yet, despite doing everything I could to be respectful to those with the opposite opinion while still expressing my own, I get told I'm a waste of time.

If you don't like what I have to say, that's fine. I'm not going to force you to listen to something you don't want to hear. Ignore the thread, whatever. But do NOT insult me, for I have not intentionally insulted you, and did everything I could to make it clear I was NOT attempting to be insulting.

If anyone want to debate this MATURELY, I'd be more then happy to. But so far, the only replies I've seen to my opinion, both here an in-game, have been insults to my intelligence, sanity, skill, and character.

As for rocket surgery. . . most of the initial post was intended to be read as funny. That's a rather amusing line from an Eggo syrup commmercial that I've taken to using from time to time.

Get used to it casue its going to get worse. After the upcoming combat nerf we will be forced to group for everything more than a kreetle -thank you whining veterans- so every adventure panet is going to be a zoo of group requests and unasked group invites. Everyone is going to get treated much like master docs are with buff requests.

But it will be oh so much more fun.

Remeber this is how its SUPPOSED to be! Right Vets?

in the options there is a setting 'automatically decline group invitations'

And reagarding rocket surgery:

Rocket science and brain surgery are two terms that have been used in semi-sarcastic comments about the difficulty of tasks, or lack thereof.

"So, is it hard to figure out Artisan?" "It's not rocket science."

"How do I program my droid?" "It's not brain surgery. You simply do this. . ."

In the afformentioned commercial, the speaker ends the speech on the note "It's not rocket surgery." Mangling the two phrases in a Yogi Berra-esque way that I, personally, found amusing.

And since I'm probably going to have to explain Yogi Berra. . .

Yogi Berra, actually named Lorenzo Pietro Berra, was a baseball player. He played catcher for both the New York Mets and Yankees, and managed both teams (not sure on timelines for this, I dont' follow baseball that much.) Anyway, despite being a fantastic ballplayer, he's more famous for his verbal gaffes. Some of them are extremely wise, when you think about them, such as: "You got to be careful if you don't know where you're going, because you might not get there," "You give a hundred percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left," or "I wish I had an answer to that because I'm tired of answering that question." Others are just wierd, like "If you can't imitate him, don't copy him," "If I didn't wake up, I'd still be sleeping," or

Yogi: (to a lost Joe Garagiola) Where are you?
Joe: Some guy says to tell you I'm at the library.
Yogi: Oh, you ain't too far, just a couple of blocks. Only don't go that way, come this way.

Yogi is featured in an Afflac commercial. He's in the barbershop confusing the duck with such phrases as "If you get hurt and miss work, it doesn't hurt to miss work" and "And they give you cash, which is just as good as money."