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Thread: Doctors should get the Mind Buff business!

Jasynn
Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:55 pm
#1

You can see doctors out there all the time selling buffs. However the entertainers don't even deserve their ability to do mind buffs. If your lucky you can find one that's NOT afk. Even then, they often just say no to your request to buy one. Add to that the fact that their buffs only last 1.5-2 hours it hardley makes the effort to get one worth it. By trhe time you get through the shuttle waits, arrive at your destination, hook up with a group and run a mission or two, they are all gone. You can forget finding an master dancer or musician out in the field buffing in out of the way cantinas or camps.


I'm sorry and I know that I will get flamed, but these classes are completely useless in how they play the game. I would rather have NPS entertainers to heal and buff than these $%^&%&%(s.


NEVER TIP AN AFK ENTERTAINER!
vortexala
Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:39 pm
#2

It will never, ever, ever happen... Mind Bar wounds and performance buffs are theirs and theirs alone. Although I too thought the very same thing tonight after getting some really nice Doc Buffs then spending time searching for a non-AFKer to provide a Performance buff, which I never found



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Paintjedi
Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:59 pm
#3

Yeah...Mind is entertainer territory, but since 98% of entertainers are afk hologrinders it's hard to find someone to do Mind Buffs.



-Srolo
FlipFantasy
Thu Feb 12, 2004 9:42 pm
#4

Wait.. I have a Master Doctor/ Master Musician... I get tells for such and such buffs ... Even when Im in the middle of Yavin 4...



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Archus Meteora
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GenTesla
Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:26 am
#5

Get a 2nd acc and get it to Mstr Musician like me on my 2nd PC problem solved



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Tatriana
Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:02 am
#6

No there should be a new profession out of master medic and its called psychiatric (not sure if its spelled like that in english) but this character could buff your mind after a session of one hour. Listening the all the complaint, effectively taking away all the negative tought of your toon, and pumping you with great ideas to conquer the world and boosting your ego that your invincible.



Think that would work ?





Tatriana

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MyT_Chicken
Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:31 am
#7

never been turned away from a mind buff. Find one is a problem sometimes, but I usually don't even have a problem doing that. And frankly I will take that 1.5h-2h buff if is means for that time I don't have to worry as much about my mind. So nope don't really care about it.




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w1ggle
Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:02 am
#8

If you don't have a guild w/ a master entertainer in the bunch, then make friends with one you meet in the cantina. Once you've established a relationship, pay them enough money, and they will come to your group to buff you any time or place. (Money talks, especially for those underappreciated, non-tipped entertainers...) I hunt with guys who do this all the time. I buff the medical stats while she dances, and the whole group is ready to roll in no time. Bada bing!



Farlon Daytide - Master Doctor/Master Rifleman
BillS21
Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:35 am
#9

Jasynn,

oooo I bet you're popular in the cantinas

But hey, I hear ya. Waiting 10 mins for a 2 hr. buff that will only double your pool is quite absurd. The key is to find entertainers that buff on a regular basis. I have a few friends and a PA member that buff.

The Devs tried to help us out. They implemented food that reduces mind buffing times. But seriously, does the buffing time really need to be so long? Why can't it be instantaneous? Granted, I have no idea how this would be protrayed in-game, but I'm sure the Devs can think of something.

**Dancer discusses literature with you and you feel smarter**
**Musician smacks you in the head -WHAP- You can now focus**



Amoc Fifio
Ex-StarSider PvPer, R.I.P. 10/22/04
SirVimes
Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:26 pm
#10

This would also take a lot away from chefs and smugglers. We can't sell buffs related to health or action. Only stat buffs we do sell is mind buffs. If you take that away you might as well make Doctors the only buffing profession and be done with it.
Zarlor
Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:36 pm
#11

It seems to me this is just a call for convenience instead of addressing the root issue. The problem would seem to be finding Dancers and Musicians to get buffed from (and obviously we mean non-AFK ones, at that.)


Right now this would seem to be a huge problem because Mind is the determining factor in combat. So part of the problem would be alleviated by the Combat Revamp which should tone that particular issue down greatly, I believe.


So the other issue then is simply one of convenience and really begs more that the issue of WHY Dancers and Musicians are not offering these services, or why there aren't enough of these entertainers wanting to offer these services. (In some places the same could be said of Docs for buffing and even Medics for healing, in which case the argument would suggest we should give these abilities to other professions?) So I think the real issue to be addressed is not by offering the kludge of saying Docs should be able to buff mind (and I can't say I agree with Sir Vimes would make Chef or Smuggler buffs useless as these would still have a market and be stackable, not to mentione all the other really cool new Chef stuff that just came out that has nothing at all to do with buffing stats) but by saying how can we make it more appealing for Dancers and Musicians to play the game more and to offer their buffing services?


Certainly part of it can be answered by the same thing Docs are always asking for. TIPS! Be sure to tip your Musician and Dancer friends, and tip them well. Outside of that, though... well come up with ideas and run over to the Dancer and Musician forums and pitch them to see if some of the folks who do play those professions already like your ideas and may their Correspondents can help to offer those suggestions to the Devs.


In other words, make us stronger by making them stronger, not by giving us mind buffs.





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Arissi Plains, Dantooine - Test Center
BillS21
Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:40 pm
#12

Hear Hear SirVimes, a worthy suggestion

Besides, wasn't this a dicussion on Dnacer/Musician buffs? I personally much prefer entertainer buffs to useing Food/Spice, which lasts at the most, 15 mins.

Perhaps this is the reason that entertainer buffs take so long. If they were instantaneous in application, no one would use spice or food, except as a situational booster.

But honestly, I think that's the way it should be. Doctor buffs and Entertainer buffs should be the base buffs that people look for. Foods and spices should be secondary boosters you use when in tough situations. /shrug just my thought on the matter.



Amoc Fifio
Ex-StarSider PvPer, R.I.P. 10/22/04
Numen
Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:50 pm
#13






Jasynn wrote:



I'm sorry and I know that I will get flamed, but these classes are completely useless in how they play the game. I would rather have NPS entertainers to heal and buff than these $%^&%&%(s.


NEVER TIP AN AFK ENTERTAINER!





I'd rather have NPC Doctors as well than have to deal with people like you.



Also, if you take 2 hours to get to a shuttle, group and do 2 missions, you are either 2 years old, completely drunk or high, or have no coordination at all. Nothing wrong with that, just saying it isn't normal for you to be playing SWG at that time.




Amandil Morier - Tempest - Master Chef
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