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Thread: a fair price for the new static buffs?

Moppith
Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:37 am
#1

like smugglers when they slice something they charge 100cr/% (generally) which is fine, you always know if you have to pay a bit more you are at least getting the quality!


how about a static charge on buffs? 1cr/1point enhanced. now too me thats a perfectly fair deal! easy enough to advertise especially now docs know what their buffs will do and its keeps a VERY steady doc economy!


i would say this is reasonable! for the lesser doc who is creating lower end buff's that say enhance 1.2k then they will get 1.2k x 6 creds for their buffs (7'200 creds). for the better doc who can do 2k each buff then thats a nice 12k creds which for a guaranteed 2k to each stat is a nice price imo!


fluctuate as you will, even charging 1.2/1.3 creds/point enhance for buffs that hit over 2.2k!


this would keep a very steady economoy through out the servers and i dont see how anyone could lose out on that! if you arnt making a 1/2 decent profit then you are spending far too much money on either making or buying the packs!



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BristaAB
Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:11 am
#2

Since the buffs require exactly the same resources as before and achieve exactly the same average effect then a fair price is exactly the same as what was fair on your server before the change


Last time I was Master I used to charge 5k. I dropped it with some relief, that price wasn't worth the volume, of tells, the extensive harvester and hunting work and the rest of the baggage that went with providing the service





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Ophiiade
Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:27 am
#3

Last night on Infinity I was charging 8k for a full set (I was hitting over 2k on each stat) which I felt was more than fair now that the randomness has been removed. A rival doc was charging 10k per stat and he was only hitting 1800 per stat which I thought was quite bad for 10k. Now that you can actually tell your customers how much you can buff for and guarantee it, I don't see any problem with raising my price from 6k to 8k. I felt bad when I buffed lower than 1k on a stat, now that it's not a gray area anymore I think it's great At least now the docs that take the time to get the better resources will be rewarded for their hard work, and the hologrinders that are just looking to make a quick buck before moving on will be shunned for their crapper buffs because they don't take any time to get the better stuff.



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Moppith
Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:28 am
#4

seeing as resources are NOT exactly the same, diffirent types = diffirent quality = shifting prices


generally the higher the quality, the higher the price to buy


the higher the quality, the better the buffs. so the better the buffs the higher the price to make! which i think makes the 1:1 point:credit ratio more than acceptible.





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Marantz
Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:30 am
#5

I still charge 8k for my buffs, and after the publish, they are at 2511, lasting 3 hours 41 minutes.



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Wista
Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:01 am
#6

I'm hitting ~2400 for 3 hours with Bivoli. I was charging 6k per set. But the BE Bivoli is 3k per use. I usually don't sit at a starport and buff people so most of the time a Bivoli charge is used for oneto a few people.


I'm thinking about offering a with and without Bivoli price or going to 8k for a set and always use the Bivoli.


Has anyone been asked to upgrade a buff?







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wookiedude1951
Wed Mar 17, 2004 11:15 am
#7

I use 902/11908/27 buff packs so at 1 cr per point increase would be 14,694 for a set of buffs.


ill still be charging 8k for my buffs which are 2449 and last 3.3 hours as i just dont see the need to charge anymore. i make plenty at 8k a buff.


thats with 110 droid +25 cothes and +25 bivoli.


everyone has a differnt idea as what they consider fair some may buy thier resources and have to charge a higher price to recoup thier losses from the high prices of resources. and some harvest thier own and can afford to charge less.


its a domino effect docs charge more for buffs scouts see this and say hmmmm he raised his price on buffs im gonna raise my price on avian or herb or whatever the resource may be so in turn docs will pass the cost again to the customer.


but do kep this in mind when raising prices whats it going to do to the economy in swg? is really worth it if in turn you still paying high prices or even higher because the scouts want a piece of the pie as well. but thats econnomics and a whole different ballgame



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ZeroK0ol
Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:47 pm
#8

Dang reading the costs on other servers is making me fell better about being on Bria, the average buff price is 10k on bria, an it was with a 1k tip back for under a 1k buff... but the standard is still 10k even though i think it could be raised with static buffs....




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Auhal
Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:51 am
#9

I charge 10k for mine - they hit 2210 on all 6 stats, how ever I have been asking other Docs if that is too high or not, I only just got master.



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Moppith
Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:51 am
#10

ok ok , so maybe i was a bit hastey in saying a 1:1 charge, but i am just trying to go along that line! hell charge 0.2creds/point enhance if that what your server is. i am just trying to suggest this so people can choose really. im just fed up of the little doc in the corner without the food/clothes/droid and not very good enhance d's charging the same as me!


and yeah 10k for a full set of buffs deffo seems to be the norm!





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Auhal
Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:31 am
#11

I also like 10k a set as it is easier to work out how much I will make from a certain set of buffs.



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Ethalsar
Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:55 am
#12

I think the 1 credit per point system makes sense, and makes it easier for junior docs to charge for minor buffs. Now that the variability is gone, I'm already finding that people are happy to take minor buffs as they know for certain how much they'll be buffed -no risk ofgetting +120 onhealth for 1.5 hours!!!


You're not only paying for the resources - you're paying for the skill of the doctor, the time they've invested in getting up to Master, and the money they've spent on getting bio-enhanced clothing, Bivoli, etc.


My current primary buffs (C's) do 555 and 630 points each, and my secondaries (B's) range from 410 to 460... for a full set, I can now comfortably charge just shy of 3k for the set. It's not a lot of cash, even lower-level players who would never consider parting with 12k for a couple of hours of relative invulnerability are happy to part with this amount.


I'm going to stick with this system for the time being. If it doesn't work out (maybe it's less realistic at Master Doc, don't know - haven't been there!) I'll change as the situation demands.


For the moment, though - I'm happy to actually be covering the cost of my harvesters, etc.





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Tiberian74
Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:18 am
#13






Auhal wrote:
I charge 10k for mine - they hit 2210 on all 6 stats, how ever I have been asking other Docs if that is too high or not, I only just got master.






you should charge what you feel your buffs are worth, the time it took you to get the resources and craft them, i also charge 10k for all 6 stats on any planet, depending on what packs im using all hit for between 2056 and 2298 with BE cloths and a 110 droid and the duration is between 2h10m and 3h (the last lot of gas had a poor DR of only 220 or so).



if i could not produce buffs that were hitting for more than 2k with out food and have a minimum of 2hours then i doubt i would sell them as i dont feel they are of good enough quality to sell to, if how ever i was told that it did not matter and they still wanted the buff then i would probably drop the price to about 8k.



if you think about the amount of money someone can make from running missions buffed for at least 2 hours then 10k is very cheap and is paid for (usually) in the first two missions, and if you join a big group and get afew missions on a planet such as dantoonie (but do the missions solo) you can earn 20k+ per mission

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