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Thread: counter combat medics

Schiller
Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:03 am
#1

Good day docs.


Ive been owned by combat medics way to much now. And all they have to say is "propably mad because we beat stackers". Bullshi* im no stacker. CMs just bean anything but this is another story.


Now i wont cry "nerf cms" anymore. I decided to master doc just to counter them even at cost im going to be weak to some other classes. We have to manyCMs onmy server and its time to stop them, so much i hate them.


However i have few questions about cures.


How do they work?

how effective are they?

how much mind they cost and can you use it while moving?

i hope they are not bugged or something?

how is your expirience with cures in pvp agains cms.


tnx



Munga_Meds
Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:53 am
#2

First thing is, physician heal thyself.


Next is, the Doctor shouldn't be in the thick of it, he should be on the periphery, preferably in the rear with the gear... and with an escort/guard set up.


Next is, the Doctor should have all players KNOW that they should come to the doc in his area, not the other way around.


If someone incaps, use drag (30m range at Master Doc)


Mind cost, like most abilities is dependant on secondary stats. As a wookiee maxxed out in mind 1100/650/650 I think I use in the neighborhood of 100, could be wrong, as I never really look.


I keep Fishak, Vercupti, Pate, and now Brandy hotkeyed on my main battle menu. USE THEM. Particularly this new brandy, BE version, is +401 mind/focus/willpower for 41.5 minutes, filling 50 and digestion fast enough that you can continue to use it as it wears off. This means you can drink it 2x and gain +802/+802/+802. On top of that, if you are raiding and not just stupid Starport PvPing - you should be dancer buffed and musician buffed.


Any well thought out raid can succeed even in the face of multiple CM's. Just don't DB them. Let them lay there incapped, saves them from clone zerging. If you have a CM, disease their Mind/Focus/Willpower and STILL don't DB them. It takes discipline and smarts, which, IMO, is in short supply with the majority of PvPers who cry "nerf CM, it's too powerful"


Hope this answers your question, but I'm tired and averse to re-reading my own post to make sure.



Athera- Master Tailor
Talusian Haven, Talus, Kauri
Banthaboy01
Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:26 am
#3

""Next is, the Doctor shouldn't be in the thick of it, he should be on the periphery, preferably in the rear with the gear... and with an escort/guard set up.


Next is, the Doctor should have all players KNOW that they should come to the doc in his area, not the other way around.""



Your an idiot, and not a Doctor I would like to have next to me on any high end encounter.



Elarai
Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:05 am
#4

Doctors>CM



I am living proof of that! I am a Master Doctor/TKM



If they throw disease/poison you can instant remove it, so its a mind fight really. Use the new brandy, also breath of heaven helps too. If your a zabrak use equilibrium. Basically you remove your status and kd them and their screwed. Also attack their mind





Arcenae Ordian | Cerrin Ordian


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Obata
Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:59 am
#5


Banthaboy01 wrote:
""Next is, the Doctor shouldn't be in the thick of it, he should be on the periphery, preferably in the rear with the gear... and with an escort/guard set up.
Next is, the Doctor should have all players KNOW that they should come to the doc in his area, not the other way around.""
Your an idiot, and not a Doctor I would like to have next to me on any high end encounter.





Actually Munga is right on. CMs can be countered, it just takes coordination. Your group should have a doctor playing in a dedicated healing role. We all like to be in the thick of the fight, but for a group to succeed you have to play smart. Even as a doc/CM I sometimes have to assume the role of the dedicated healer and forget about my poison attacks. In my case it depends on who else is in the group. If I'm the only doc, the worst thing I could do is get myself killed. If everyone in the group knows where to go for cures (and actually does it), the group will stay in the fight much longer. All of the players I group with regularly know that rule number 1 is to always run TO the healer. Those who run away are on their own. Doc's can't be chasing people around to cure them.

Message Edited by Obata on 03-02-2004 12:00 PM



Obata Lightingflier (Deceased): Master Doctor, Master Combat Medic - Wanderhome
Opos Odet (Deceased): Master Artisan, Master Merchant, Master Musician - Wanderhome
Elarai
Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:28 am
#6

Obata is 100% right, doctors don't chase, your teamates chase you. Only time you chase is for the rezz.



Arcenae Ordian | Cerrin Ordian


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Schiller
Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:12 am
#7

Tnx guys.


Actualy im going to be a zabrak rifleman/doc. I dont need to kill everyone. I just want to be CM's nightmare. We have so many CMs on naritus i will have a lot of work to do.


Ok i have few more questions.


I have never been trying zabracs equilium. can you post your thoughs about it pls?


And i have some issue with stacking brandy.


I used to have 30 minutes BE brandy at 49 fill. I stacked two of them and when the 30 minutes was over there was still something in stomach so i had to wait for like 10 minutes in order to throw in another two.


Then i tried not stacking them. So when i use just one brandy and its over the stomach is empty.


First i thought the stomach timer would be not 30 minutes like devs said but 40.


Well i found better 40 minutes brandy and i have same issue. When i use one brandy i am empty when it runs out. When i stack two i always have to wait 10 minutes for another two.


Someone else expirienced same issue?



DeathHawk-
Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:36 am
#8

I'm now Doc/Rifle/CM/Ent and still loving the 2-3k buffs with +80 Wound Treatment and Bivoli



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Loviza
Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:03 am
#9

Banthaboy youre apparently no Doc, so just keep shut and let the doctors tell you what you need to do in a fight. Since you apparently dont have the brains wich I think many doctors have or need to have on the field because of players like you.



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