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Thread: Finally Docs waking up and realizing their true worth.

fury211
Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:18 pm
#27






Oloosi wrote:

Ahh would you like a little cheese with that wine, lol 12k to 15k a buff sounds good to me were going to have to raise our prices on buffs on the vendors thought. Hehe







hee hee.


i guess i'll have to raise the price on the avian i collect,


or sell my buffs at lower then 10k.


there's a few ways i can go with this.


in my own sphere of influence.


Being a doctor, and a person who


1. usually tips 1k above the asking price,


2. ninja tips free buffers,


3. is a master doctor,


I think 12 - 15 k is bull isht.


and i'm not the only one.





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Valden
Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:43 pm
#28

I will most likely charge the market value of buffs...currently on corbantis that is generally 8k, but if it goes up, I will raise my price

ooBoBoo
Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:00 pm
#29








CoriStonerie wrote:
Being a former Master doc, i can say this....charge whatever the heck you want, if you get business, fine, but telling others they should charge the same as you is just moronic.

Some people like playing the doc profession because its fun, not because they want to make millions. Like some others have said, if they want to make money fast, they don't have to sit and buff people, they can sell weapons or armor and make heavy profit.

Not trying to flame ya, sir, just saying you charge what you want, let others charge what they want = everyone happy.






I don't take having my post called moronic a flame at all, a-hole.


I didn't tell anyone whatto charge. I asked that we all get what our buffs are worth and suggested a price range we can all discuss. Obviously there are docs who won't and they will charge lower prices. Fine.


All I know is people are paying 12k and not complaining. So the docs who won't charge that and do it for fun, all I can say is have fun losing money. Because your customers are exploiting your low prices when they go on their uber payout missions for 3+ hours on your good buffs. 12k is nothing to them.

ooBoBoo
Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:01 pm
#30







fury211 wrote:

Go ahead.


I'll go to any doc undercutting you and i'll hook him/her up.


12-15k is bull isht.








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ooBoBoo
Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:28 pm
#31






Cailid010 wrote:





ooBoBoo wrote:





YES!!!


Finally Docs waking up and realizing their true worth. Even with randomness, an 850 pack is worth 10k. I never apologize for low buffs and always ask for 10k up front.


Even with docs asking 8K I still get biz and I'm happy to give it as my customers are to get it.


Maybe now we can unite and set a price. Lets talk about a fixed price between 12-15K for 800+ packs. I'll be using packs that are 877 base and have 3:40 duration. I think the resulting buff (2412) will be worth 15k. I'm using Bio-clothing and Bivoli.


As for players that can't afford these buffs, they can see a lower level Doc. Their missions won't require an uber buff. This will give all docs, regardless of level, a good chance at making money.


Let's stop giving our buffs away for cheap. Let's rally now!

Message Edited by ooBoBoo on 03-16-2004 09:33 AM




No.


I will never be part of a price fixing scheme. I will not charge more just because others are greedy.


If a buff pack costs you 20k to buy but the same pack only costs me 10k, why should I charge the same as you?







You missed the point. This is about getting what our bufs are truely worth. It has not only aboutwhat our costs are. Putting aside the high cost of materials, think of the effort the crafters put into gathering resources and buying them. Crafting the pack. Sure, you can buy them (they will be going up in price my friend, so enjoy charging low prices then).


Then the stress of buffing a line that always has 6-8 people for a few hours. Think of your time spent in doing so.


If you want to undercut, fine, do it. Even with a few 8k buffers working yesterday, I still had a line going for hours at 12k. If you want to lose money, well, that is your right.



BTW, most docs I saw were charging 12k and no one seemed to thinkwe were greedy.
Rameus99
Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:47 pm
#32

Here is my 2 cents.


I have 2 chars and Master Doc/Master Musician, and a Master Commando/TKM on Bria (Yes a Cash rich server).


I make a point of not wasting my resources providing doc buffs, but I macro my Musician and provide group buffs all night long. When I do buff people I charge at least 20k. In my experience there are always places on Dath/Dantooine that are doc free. My logic for charging these outrageous rates?



#1 When buffed my combat char can solo 26k Missions on Dantooined at least 2 every 10-15 minutes. My buffs last about 3 hours lets say I waste 15 minutes getting re-mind buffed in that time and another 15 messing around in guild chat. So lets say I can do atabout20 missions over 3 hours that are worth 26 k, assuming I have a group (Which I almost always do thanks to free mind group buffing) and that I am trying to be productive.


So thats like a potential 520k that I could earn while buffed. If doing noob dant missions like quenkers which are about 5k each thats a potential 100k (I've done better hunting quenks using TKA). Is 20k so much to ask? I think not, especially when its possible to remake that 20k in 5-10 minutes hunting decent missions.


#2 Buff kits are not free it does take money to buy the best resources and to run the factories, and to make it worth our while to even bother buffing people.


#3 If you don't want to pay this much for a buff fine, but you might be going without buffs, especially since I like going to out of the way places with high value missions.
Bloodburn
Wed Mar 17, 2004 12:35 am
#33

Whats really sad, is tonight I saw lots of people still buffing for 6k in cornet. Whats worse is some of them were even saying "6k for all 6 stats and any buff under 2000 is FREE!".

What is soo wrong with thier self esteem that makes them think thier buffs are not worth anything? They are buffing for 2500 per stat every time, yet they insist that 6k is expensive enough to charge. What planet am I on here?!

ooBoBoo
Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:00 am
#34






Bloodburn wrote:
Whats really sad, is tonight I saw lots of people still buffing for 6k in cornet. Whats worse is some of them were even saying "6k for all 6 stats and any buff under 2000 is FREE!".

What is soo wrong with thier self esteem that makes them think thier buffs are not worth anything? They are buffing for 2500 per stat every time, yet they insist that 6k is expensive enough to charge. What planet am I on here?!






BINGO Bloodburn!!!


This is an issue of self esteem. I have even seen docs apologize for 1300 hits before this publish and refund. Like they could have controled it. It's sad and it can at times make it difficult for docs who want a fair profit to make one.


I think it is a call to ppl to "please like me and accept me" which is also esteem related. In the end they get used and the players laugh whileat the mission terminals looking at the 35k missions they will be doing for 3+ hours.



Tras2
Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:43 am
#35

I have a AFK buff house and i make some of the best buffs on Raidiant. Pre Patch i was making 24/941 or 32/936 (i prefer more charges). Post patch 29c/958p/4 hours.I Try not to sell to may packs but it got to the point where i would stock my vendor at 8million for a set of 6 full crates i would sell out of 4 sets in under 4 hours. So i raided my price to 14million to see if any would buy and there still buying buffs from me. This is about 10k per buff so most Doc's do not buy from me to sell buffs and thats cool with me since ihave a afk buff house. But a lot of peeps like to have some top end buffs on them so i say Charge what ever you like.



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Travin64068
Wed Mar 17, 2004 6:33 am
#36

The way I see it is that I'm not in competition with other doctors. I was on Dantooine last night selling buffs for 10K a set, and there was another doctor selling for 8K. We both had lines of people, and I never advertised once that I was selling buffs. Some people will pay more for buffs that last longer or are 50 points higher.


I don't charge for buffs based on what they can make off of them, I charge based on what the buffs are worth. If I charged off what they can make off of them, then I would be charging BH's and Commando's 50K since they always seem to brag about making 150K an hour. I know that I (withjust one branch inPistoleer)can make about 40K to 50Kan hour running missions on Endor.


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Tashim
Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:15 am
#37

Supply and Demand.

I see people stand in lines that take 20-30 minutes, and quite frequently, someone will come along and try to convince the doc to buff them next for 20k or even 30k. People are not only willing to pay for quality, but they're also willing to pay for convienence.

I have no problems standing next to a doc thats charging 6k, and offer my services for 20k. Sure, I wont get as many customers, and if people are willing to wait, great, they can get cheaper buffs. I've had docs thank me for doing this so they have a place to refer those impatient customers who have too many credits to begin with.



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kparton
Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:28 am
#38

I think 12k is just rubbish, thats 2k per stat? hello???? it doesnt cost 2k to make a enhancment pack!!!


I'm completly against this, As a Doctor, work out how mucheach pack cost to manufacture, then add a % as a profit (sommat like 15%). Why on earth you think you can charge 2k is complety beyond me, I wish people would wise upto the fact there being ripped off.


If it costs 600 credits to manufacture one stim with X amount of charges, then your gonna charge 2k per Pack charge? omfg!!!!!


Appalling.





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Bloodburn
Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:38 am
#39



kparton wrote:

I think 12k is just rubbish, thats 2k per stat? hello???? it doesnt cost 2k to make a enhancment pack!!!

I'm completly against this, As a Doctor, work out how much each pack cost to manufacture, then add a % as a profit (sommat like 15%). Why on earth you think you can charge 2k is complety beyond me, I wish people would wise upto the fact there being ripped off.

If it costs 600 credits to manufacture one stim with X amount of charges, then your gonna charge 2k per Pack charge? omfg!!!!!

Appalling.






You have any idea how much money a person can get back by using those buffs to thier potentional by doing missions on dantooine, dath, or yavin? At 12k a set, they can get that back in 1 to 2 missions. Which takes what, 5 minutes? 10 minutes, out of the 3 hours that the buff will give them?!

Im sick of "doctors" like you that have no self esteem and only think of the cost of the product, and not the VALUE of the product.

If you were running a car company you would go under for selling cars at cost, not for thier value.

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