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Thread: whats up with most docs and medics.
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Protilious
Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:01 am
#14
Why does everyone expect (non-holo grinder) doctor's to do their thing for free?
Do you walk up to a weaponsmith and say 'hey! My gun is just about toast, how about a new one? Anyone? Any takers on this wonderfull offer?"
What a silly proposition. Here's the misconception: medics *dying* for XP will heal a bloody stuffed animal if it will give them xp. People in general get used to this idea and think it isthe way it -should- be. Wrong.
Once I reached doc, and my xp was full, I don't waste meds in such a way. I'll heal someone if I have the time/extra meds but when someone walks up to me with a demanding demeanor telling me to heal them, I just look at their profession and ask for something free back. I always get a weird response but they usuallly get where I'm coming from.
I made the error of healing anyting that wanted it (wounds or damage) and that was my mistake. I won't bleed myself of Wound kits just because someone demands it. The days of me capitulating to every medical demanding patron are done with. This stuff isn't free, and when people expect it for free, they actually have the audacity to be rude when you won't give it up for free!!!
I love this one: "Hey YOU. Master Docter! Resuscitate my friend! Blah blah blah"
What did I miss here? Just because I'm a doc, that means all services are free? So you can go out again, kick butt, get money from missions? Since when did rez kits grow on trees? I looooove <insert sarcasticeye rollhere> the way they say it. They don't even ask anymore, they say it like it is your goal in life to rez this guy's friend. And if you ask the guy for a tip for your problems? How's this for a tip: 'Don't eat yellow snow. Have a nice day."
My advice to you is: make more stimpacks, plain and simple. Don't judge a pile of people because you didn't make enough stimpacks.
Sorry if this sounds harsh but man am I getting tired of people expecting/demanding FREE medical services. You know when the last time I got a free slice? Never. Free gun? Never Free armour? Never. Free droid? Never. Free resource? Never. Aside from a heal,I've not been given a'free' anything in this game. You , as a master doc, must know what I'm talking about: the demands of free heals, etc.
Sorry, I truly am, but as you can tell, I'm sick of this misconception that 'healers' in general are a pile of in game millionaires walking around in game with the sole ambition of healing/rezing someone for free.
Ophiiade
Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:14 am
#15
Btw, just to clarify before the flames happen, I'm not saying that doctors shouldn't expect payment for their services. I think that we should get paid for anything that we assist people with. It wouldn't happen for nothing in real life, so why should it happen for nothing in SWG?
ElPedroSG
Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:18 am
#16
Ophiiade wrote:
I'm afraid that pretty much most of the mentality displayed by those that have "1-starred" some of the constructive posts on this topic is the mentality of the afk docs. The "docs" that have probably never even healed someone that was in trouble. Instead they sit somewhere all day healing those lame afk tumblers for their XP. Last night I was in the med centre in Coronet, Infinity. There were some medics in there healing an afk tumbler for their xp. I spoke to them and suggested that perhaps they ought to try actually healing people that need it rather than healing a tumble-monkey. They seemed absolutely shocked that me, a Master Doctor of over 2 months, would suggest such an idea.
Why is it that healing those in need seems like such a preposterous idea? This was how I became Master in my profession. Now, I agree that docs shouldn't be on-hand for buffs 24/7, but come on, you're a Master Doctor and the whole point of your profession is healing. That means helping people pretty much as much as you can. I don't mean all the time, but how long does it take you to press a button that's macroed for /healwound or /healdamage? Quite literally 2 seconds, if that. Sometimes I wonder what the Doctor profession would be like without the ability to buff others. I can guarantee that about 3/4's of the docs around would quit and find some other profession to afk macro.
If the whole point of your gaming as a doc is to heal just pick up novice med and somewound Bs. Now if you want to be able to buff the best, make the best meds you need to be a master doc, but if the whole point of you being a doc is to heal then use the skillpoints elsewhere, like maybe some entertainer skills to heal mind as you are wasting them being a master doc.
As others have stated. Weaponsmith allows you to make the best weapons, how many of them can you run past and say 'dude I need a new T21' and get one free?
The reason people macro heal tunblers is because they want to level fast. And even the people who like to play their character get so p1ssed at the ingratitude they often end up healing a tumbler too. Why bother healing some ingrate who thinks they are doing you a favour by letting you heal them?
A good response is an email with a medic trainer and a waypoint to your vendor 
Edit: hehe the compensation for time and materials is the whole problem.
Message Edited by ElPedroSG on 03-19-2004 05:19 PM
ElPedroSG
Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:20 am
#17
Ophiiade wrote:
I'm afraid that pretty much most of the mentality displayed by those that have "1-starred" some of the constructive posts on this topic is the mentality of the afk docs. The "docs" that have probably never even healed someone that was in trouble. Instead they sit somewhere all day healing those lame afk tumblers for their XP. Last night I was in the med centre in Coronet, Infinity. There were some medics in there healing an afk tumbler for their xp. I spoke to them and suggested that perhaps they ought to try actually healing people that need it rather than healing a tumble-monkey. They seemed absolutely shocked that me, a Master Doctor of over 2 months, would suggest such an idea.
Why is it that healing those in need seems like such a preposterous idea? This was how I became Master in my profession. Now, I agree that docs shouldn't be on-hand for buffs 24/7, but come on, you're a Master Doctor and the whole point of your profession is healing. That means helping people pretty much as much as you can. I don't mean all the time, but how long does it take you to press a button that's macroed for /healwound or /healdamage? Quite literally 2 seconds, if that. Sometimes I wonder what the Doctor profession would be like without the ability to buff others. I can guarantee that about 3/4's of the docs around would quit and find some other profession to afk macro.
If the whole point of your gaming as a doc is to heal just pick up novice med and some stim Bs. Now if you want to be able to buff the best, make the best meds you need to be a master doc, but if the whole point of you being a doc is to heal then use the skillpoints elsewhere, like maybe some entertainer skills to heal mind as you are wasting them being a master doc.
As others have stated. Weaponsmith allows you to make the best weapons, how many of them can you run past and say 'dude I need a new T21' and get one free?
The reason people macro heal tunblers is because they want to level fast. And even the people who like to play their character get so p1ssed at the ingratitude they often end up healing a tumbler too. Why bother healing some ingrate who thinks they are doing you a favour by letting you heal them?
A good response is an email with a medic trainer and a waypoint to your vendor
Olepi
Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:26 am
#18
smiler1973 wrote:
sorry to sound off, but if you noticed i am a master doc.
why be a doc if you dont want to heal?
i dont mind if people dont pay me for heals thats was my desition to become master ,
as for saying no body says thanks for healing , so i will heal nobody it is madness.
sounds to me like some body is takeing there bat and ball home.
so as master doc i should heal nobody, unless they offer me money,
sit in a hospital all day with hundreds of others and grind all day.
what happend to team play.
must just be me whats off my head. if i see some one asking for heals i give them one, if i see a newbie struggleing for cash i tip them, if i go on group hunts i buff for free!
you may find people actualy recognise you on your server you make friends, i have loads of people who come up to me and say hi,
even give me things when they have spare cash ect.
its all team work, trust me people do remember when you help them and one day you may need them.
i was no doc once just like others and i asked some one to heal me they were a medic, they said no! they wanted paying first i had no money and left. the next time i noticed them they were asking me for buffs desperatley on dartoonie, i had great delight in saying no!!! they even offerd me 25K i still said no.
what goes around comes around you will see.
but the next time i bumped in to them they
Two Words: HOLO GRINDER
Sistere
Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:42 am
#19
Damn I lost my reply!!!
Well the short of it is.
1) Don't expect everyone to play this game the same way you do.
2) Don't come here and **edit** because you ran out of meds, which was the true root of your problem that night, IMO you let your mates down, not the holo tumber/buffers
3) You can treat wounds without meds, but I suspect you already knew that it just takes alot longer.
These docs didn't leave you and your buds high and dry, you did it to yourself.
Later
sweeno987
Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:15 pm
#20
well i for one did not become a master doc to serve the public. at least not for free. next time you go to the doctor in real life, ask him if he will treat you for free. lol. now i realize this is just a game and not real life, but even in a game i didnt put in all the work and resources to become master doctor just so i could be an unpaid public servant. if thats why you did it, then fine, to each his own. dont be upset that not every other doctor on your server is in it for the same thing as you. the only people i have interest in helping for free are my in game friends. other people can either pay me for my services if im in the mood to service them, or they can put the work into mastering their own character and do it themselves. people can have whatever expectations they want of me. doesnt mean i am playing this game to fulfill those expectations. i play for my enjoyment only. not for everyone else's
Bloodburn
Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:32 pm
#21
TryalNError wrote:from now on im telling you now , from now on im going to buff every tumbler in the building if it happens again!ROFL! I've had this idea pop in my mind on several occasions.
Um, you do realise that doing this, will get you suspended and banned from the game right?
Nema0879
Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:51 pm
#22
Just do like I do and buff their quickness - serves the samepurpose and doesn't waste buffs ...
TryalNError wrote:
from now on im telling you now , from now on im going to buff every tumbler in the building if it happens again!
ROFL! I've had this idea pop in my mind on several occasions.
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