Doctor Archive
Thread: Healing tumblers and the annoyance therin....
while were at it:
ShadowMaster what doesthe /nextCraftingStage macro do, and whats the proper syntax for it? Thanks!!
JPoverkill wrote:
I wonder, are there any other doctors out there who did it all themselves as I have?
I did it exactally as you did with one possible exception: I never "grind" any meds. I only craft the meds I need to heal non-tumblers as I need them. Yeah, it's been slow (I've played since release and am still on that last crafting box in the MD tree) but I actually enjoy playing the game.
As for tumble-spammers: I just put them on /ignore.
One of the biggest problems I've seen, on my server at least, is that there's rarely anyone in the hospitals to be healed any more. Before player cities came out the hospitals were busy places and you could earn a lot of exp there. Now they're mostly deserted. If you try to gain exp there to be a better healer for your friends then you'll be a long time at it.
The advantages I see to healing tumblers, etc, are that you make master sooner and you have the better heals, you can rez, you can cure poison / disease / states. Now you can go out huting with groups to learn the finer points of healing during combat while providing cures, rezzes and better heals. You are a greater benefit to your group.
Whether you macrod to master and then went hunting for healing 'experience' or you healed your way to master, eventually you've learned how to heal your group. Just because someone used a macro to get o master doesn't mean they're a poor healer. At the same time, just because they worked their way to master healing while hunting it doesn't mean they're a good one.
I did some of both getting to master. I've also played a Healer, Shaman and Warden in DAOC so I already know a fair bit about healing a group in combat.
Chaice wrote:
I don't know why people think afk anything cheapens the effort you put in...
Up until about a week or so ago, it didn't cheapen my effort too much. But just recently, about 3 or 4 of my fellow guild members started grinding the doctor trees. in a week they've gotten nearly to where i'm at by healing tumblers. now it does have a direct effect on me, and it does seem to cheapen my efforts.
Whether you macrod to master and then went hunting for healing 'experience' or you healed your way to master, eventually you've learned how to heal your group. Just because someone used a macro to get o master doesn't mean they're a poor healer. At the same time, just because they worked their way to master healing while hunting it doesn't mean they're a good one.
wether a doc is a good healer or not has nothing to do with what i was talking about. i was talking about people who heal tumblers all the way up the trees in a week, when it took me a month and a half of healing (which i enjoyed by the way) to get to master. if you don't enjoy working up the tree, then clearly you're doing the wrong profession.
JPoverkill wrote:
wether a doc is a good healer or not has nothing to do with what i was talking about. i was talking about people who heal tumblers all the way up the trees in a week, when it took me a month and a half of healing (which i enjoyed by the way) to get to master. if you don't enjoy working up the tree, then clearly you're doing the wrong profession.
If you enjoyed your method of getting to master then that's all that matters. How someone else does it has no bearing on you.
Not enjoying the grind and not enjoying healing are two very different things. If I didn't enjoy it I wouldn't have gone for master, nor would I have played 3 different healer classes in DAOC. By doing some macroing towards master (I did a lot of the healing grind as well) I became a greater benefit to any groups in a shorter time.
In a shorter time I was able to cure poison / disease in my group. In a shorter time I was able to rez anyone that died. As a low level doctor I wasn't able to do these things for my group. To me the macroing just meant I was a greater benefit to my friends in a shorter period of time.
Again, you said you enjoyed how you got to where you are and that is the only thing that should matter to you....thatyou enjoyed it.
Kevie wrote:
who said he was afk healing up?
calm down there tiger, stop being so defensive....... it makes you look like you have something to hide
He said so himself in another thread when he complained about being ninja buffed while he AFK healed in the med center. Speaking of being defensive, maybe you shouldn't be defending other people when you don't know what's going on with them?
People can tumble all day as far as I'm concerned but it does create 2 very real problems.
1. People with real wounds get ignored. Once I was in the med center healing folks and ignoring the tumble monkey. There were 2 of us doing that (all the other medics were faithfully attending the tumbler). As a result one guy tipped us both 10K apiece for healing his wounds. You go into a med center and see a ton of docs all sitting around healing the tumbleer and you see other people with real wounds asking "will someone heal me please". IMO that's wrong.
2. It creates people who have no idea about the profession. My method of xp gain is to give away buffs. It makes doc xp go by VERY QUICKLY (btw I always ask). I'm not able to join groups so I compensate by simply giving buffs away. (I'm just a few boxes from master and I'm having a blast as well) My targets of choice are other master docs because they are usually selling the buffs and don't mind me buffing them for xp. Last night I asked a MASTER doc if I could buff them to help me get some xp and his response was "how will u buffing me help u lvl"
I rest my case 
Oh and one more thing. I just GOTTA try ninja buffing an AFK tumble monkey's stamina and quickness . I can see it now. I'll be reported for "griefing" by other medicsso much it won't even be funny!
Message Edited by atimes on 02-25-2004 12:49 PM
atimes wrote:
People can tumble all day as far as I'm concerned but it does create 2 very real problems.
1. People with real wounds get ignored. Once I was in the med center healing folks and ignoring the tumble monkey. There were 2 of us doing that (all the other medics were faithfully attending the tumbler). As a result one guy tipped us both 10K apiece for healing his wounds. You go into a med center and see a ton of docs all sitting around healing the tumbleer and you see other people with real wounds asking "will someone heal me please". IMO that's wrong.
I went to a lot of hospitals as I was levelling. The majority of the time they were empty or it was 5 medics sitting there with no patients to heal. I'd sit there for half an hour working on my crafting without a single person coming in to be healed. The times I healed someone tumbling I only did it in our player city, away from the hospital.
2. It creates people who have no idea about the profession. My method of xp gain is to give away buffs. It makes doc xp go by VERY QUICKLY (btw I always ask). I'm not able to join groups so I compensate by simply giving buffs away. (I'm just a few boxes from master and I'm having a blast as well) My targets of choice are other master docs because they are usually selling the buffs and don't mind me buffing them for xp. Last night I asked a MASTER doc if I could buff them to help me get some xp and his response was "how will u buffing me help u lvl"
Even doctors that level without AFK healing or healing tumblers a lot of the time never bother with buffing until they can use the D packs. Not healing a tumbler also doesn't automatically make you a good doctor that knows everything about the profession.
I rest my case
One person gains experience by going hunting in groups and healing them to make master. Another heals a tumbler to master and then gains experience hunting with groups. In the end they both learn the profession and how to keep people alive.
Both methods will end up with good and bad healers from it.
Oh and one more thing. I just GOTTA try ninja buffing an AFK tumble monkey's stamina and quickness
Message Edited by atimes on 02-25-2004 12:49 PM
Message Edited by Cailid010 on 02-25-2004 10:09 AM