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Curiouser and Curiouser...

Here's the results of a +25 pants, +15 Swoop Helm and +16 Reinforced Jacket. All other variables the same... except that I was only able to perform 44 buffs instead of 50. Ran out of this particular batch.

With +156:

2805
1210
1544
2442
1594
1190
1755
2280
1352
2522
1675
2139
1432
1554
1231
1594
1695
1392
1937
1654
1069
2361
1150
1332
1150
2542
2542
1554
1251
1130
1654
1069
2179
2179
2704
2220
1816
2381
1614
2946
1493
2966
1957
2038

That's an average of 1824.864. Which does not follow our previous results.

What conclusion can we now draw with this additional data? That we need more testing.

What I found very interesting about this last set was the lack of discrete values. I had TWO repeats in one 44 buff session of the same number. I'm going to doa nice run of a crate of 50 Action buffs. 33 charges per. 6600 total buffs should be a bit better for providing more conclusive data.

I do however think that something is probably screwy with the buffing process. It seems the calculations are perhaps too complex or easily befuddled... who knows. The increase with +140 could be because less than 150 actually works. Or because it was pants and a helm. And a jacket throws it off. Who knows.

More data to come this weekend as I have time.

/agreed

If this does yield information that the avergae buff can be increased then that will be invaluable information. I'd imagine I speak for all of us when I say I"m anxiously awaiting your results. Good luck and thanks for the tests.

Nice work. I decided to duplicate your efforts and see what turns up. Coincidentally my action D's are also 897 power. Factory made, same crate. I used a kaadu mount in a small house as my test subject; /diagnose said the pet had 0 fatigue. No droids obviously.

I did three sets of 50 buffs. First with no BE clothes, second with +25/+25 comfy slacks and third with slacks, shirt and jacket for +49/+49 total.

Average with +100/+100 WT/IT: 1755.52 Highest: 2673 Lowest: 897
Average with +125/+125 WT/IT: 1982.84 Highest: 3007 Lowest: 1009
Average with +149/+149 WT/IT: 1956.42 Highest: 3007 Lowest: 1009

I noticed I buffed for 3007 exactly four times- twice in a row in the second set! I also hit the highest and lowest buff in the second and third sets twice.

I'm not good in maths though (as my friends are all too happy to point out!) so I'll leave it to someone else to figure it out. I'm planning on getting a BE hat and the bivoli as well to do some more sets if it's of any use.

But it seems to indicate going over +25 does not actually matter, which is in line with devs statements. I've also never really observed a difference in game.

Here's the numbers anyway.

No bio-engineered clothing
1794 - 1
1255
2565
986
2063 - 5
1596
1758
1112
2655
2260 - 10
2547
1542
2098
897
1435 - 15
2116
1596
2511
1471
1542 - 20
2386
1363
1291
2224
2242 - 25
1381
914
1847
1794
1471 - 30
1345
1614
2314
2260
1811 - 35
1794
2673
1040
1865
2296 - 40
1794
2386
1811
1076
1184 - 45
1022
1309
1955
1686
1829 - 50

Bio-engineered slacks, +25 Wound Treatment/+25 Injury Treatment
1009 - 1
1432
1675
1654
1917 - 5
1009
2341
2643
1513
2361 - 10
2563
2381
1917
1392
2865 - 15
1453
2442
2946
2744
2482 - 20
1917
2381
1715
1695
3007 - 25
3007
1643
2098
1675
1614 - 30
2058
2240
1332
1352
2320 - 35
2583
1049
2220
1392
2078 - 40
1231
2785
1069
2058
1029 - 45
2300
2966
1392
1816
2381 - 50

Bio-engineered slacks, shirt and jacket, +49 Wound Treatment/+49 Injury Treatment
2664 - 1
2179
1069
2502
2926 - 5
1009
2018
1695
2401
1110 - 10
1049
2119
2442
1796
2058 - 15
2865
1352
1372
1776
2098 - 20
2865
1634
1029
1190
1029 - 25
1130
3007
1009
2724
1130 - 30
1170
1917
2542
1392
1876 - 35
2926
3007
1412
2987
2199 - 40
2462
1069
1493
2744
2603 - 45
2946
2280
2664
1432
1453 - 50

increase the buffs. Instead of doing 50 do 100 (gee that's easy for ME to say since I'm not the guy sitting there buffing over and over again )

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atimes wrote:
increase the buffs. Instead of doing 50 do 100 (gee that's easy for ME to say since I'm not the guy sitting there buffing over and over again )

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Yeh right!

Knock yourself out!

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TwilightScout wrote:

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atimes wrote:
increase the buffs. Instead of doing 50 do 100 (gee that's easy for ME to say since I'm not the guy sitting there buffing over and over again )

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Yeh right!

Knock yourself out!

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vortexala wrote:

Thanks for the testing

Might I suggest, though, trying the same test with higher then +25 clothing if possible?

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not possible +25 is the best results and as of the latest patch BE clothing has absolutely no effect what so ever on buffs it's 100% random

The numbers disagree with you. Both my sets and the testing done by the original poster confirm that BE clothing does work.

While +25 is the cap on any given piece, you can still wear multiple pieces- whether that has any effect beyond +25 is one of the subjects of this thread.

Let me elaborate a bit more this si from extensive communications with master tailors and their long term understanding and communciations etc of how BE clothing works.

+25 is the maximum BE modifier one can have. a +49 to anything does not stack beyond the initial +25 you get no further benefit from beyond it to push the number higher you need to aquire skill tapes then and drop them in to the sockets on clothing etc.

So one with anything above +25 will still get the +25 benefit. The problem with that and the testing being done above Great testing but as you noticed your results require more testing. INjury and wound treatment Healing is not related to BUFFS. Enhancers are an enhancer not a Injury or a wound treatment.

This means NO BE clothing modifiers and then helps one recaluclate how much of a random buff we are actually seeing.

Try the test again as follows.

test 1 = 1 crate same buff test all same mods. pick a test subject with no Battle Fatigue and use a droid with a 110 rating on a medical module. run your series of tests but not inside of the med center. Run them outside the cantina or near a starport.

test 2 = same crate same buffs as test 1. Location med Center. Same droid recharged with batteries. Same scenario with the test center above. If you are pulling lower ranges on buffs in a med center with the same modifiers as you had in test one then the only thing you can conlude is Buffs = 100% randomized above the base effect.

what does this mean Buffs use the same system as Slicing to determine the effects.

max modifier may possibly be 35% for the enhance and 45% for duration.

Something to work out and check into.

Ableza

You are wrong. I'm not in-game now but if you look at your skill sheet (cntrl+s) and read the descriptions for injury and wound treatment you will see that it also applies to enhancements.

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Low_Ki wrote:
You are wrong. I'm not in-game now but if you look at your skill sheet (cntrl+s) and read the descriptions for injury and wound treatment you will see that it also applies to enhancements.

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NO i am not! have you tested it? I have it offers literally 0 benefit.

this is from testing it before when it worked (prior to publish) and now as of last nights tests. 0 benefit i wear +25/25 injury and wound treatment clothing and for SNG i wore my armor instead and got better results wearing armor and outside of a starport. then i did in themed center with BE clothing and a 110 rated module in the same droid fully charged using the same exact buffs.

How does that calculate and how is that possible?

answer 100% random Buff system like slicing.