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Thread: Disgusted with the current prices on Eclipse Avian
What is a credit/resource dupe?
My gripe is: be glad your server HAS good avian.
The best on Bria right now is 995/352 before that it still crap, before that 920/800ish but I hadn't started yet 
Plus our avian is on Talus
When you take people with no sense of economics and hand them a game saying "you create an economy" inflation is bound to happen. A guy with a ton of money says "I'll pay 200cpu" because they want it and they want to be the only ones to get it.
The devs tried to address this in the last patch. Their efforts were noble buttheir methods weren't the best.
I was and still am against the changes that were reverted but I do agree with the devs that something needs to be done about the amount of inflation that is on every server.
Message Edited by atimes on 03-17-2004 03:55 PM
AnnnThrax wrote:
How about discussing the prices for Bivoli, anything above +20? Average price for +20 or higher in a crate of 25, with 2 uses per is 250,000 credits! That's 50 uses for 250k, or to put it in perspective, it's going for 2,500 per unit! So chunk on an additional 5,000 credits per two sets of buffs (figuring you can buff two people for the duration of one bivoli) docs are going to start chraging for their buffs. And with the new buff change/nerf (however you view it) Bivoli has become almost critical to have. I'm sorry, but the price of food/drinks is more insane than the price of avian meat...
Well I can't comment on your server, butthe bivoli I get is 3 charges, +25 and from memory i think about 15 minutes ... might be 12... not posititve and not in game ...that gives me more than enough time to buff 5 people andgoing by your servers prices (on farstar a crate is only 200k i believe) it only adds650 credits per buff ifI utilize it to it's fullest extent .... totally worth the cost imo
and this isn'teven commenting on the trouble BE Chef stuff is to make ... my chef friend was gone for a week and it took her a week of subcomponent runs before she could even start to put final products together again .... (combined we prolly have about 10 factories so it's not like we were exactly strapped for machinery....) and on our server a run of 40 BE food crated sub-sub-componentswas sold for 1.05million and they still have another run before that part of the subcomponent is done .... in case that was confusing, the be parts are made by the be (or given to the chef in a schematic) and then the chef takes em and does another run with them and then that one subcomponent is done and they can move to the next .... not sure how many subs bivoli takes, but ....
all I can say is, I'm glad I'm not having to do all that work .... and I thought enh packs were complicated ...
200cpu is insane price now that the shift is on.
I mean yes, it'll worth 200cpu in a few weeks if we don't get better shift (current avian is VERY good), but now as potentially EVERYONE can get his own meat for buffs, it's just unfair price.
I'm not into that market but I may buy some to stockpile high end ressources for a few buffpacks for real special occasions (got some 7k of very nice 970oq herb and about 12k of olipoo
) and just use regular ressources for buff sales.now the buff prices on eclipse are way too high specially for lower end buffs: most of docs here ask 8k for 2K or 2.2k for all stats, wich mean lower "high end buffs" (about 830/pack maybe) with bivoli and clothing, when you can see a few docs buffing for 8k/10k (depending on where) with a quite correct 2500+ in all stats.
But that was for 950+ OQ, 920+ PE, 850+ DR stuff.
I normally refuse to pay over 100 cpu for good avian meat.
Flynn_Nomad wrote:
Sorry, what did they do to try and fix it?
atimes wrote:
When you take people with no sense of economics and hand them a game saying "you create an economy" inflation is bound to happen. A guy with a ton of money says "I'll pay 200cpu" because they want it and they want to be the only ones to get it.
The devs tried to address this in the last patch. Their efforts were noble buttheir methods weren't the best.
I was and still am against the changes that were reverted but I do agree with the devs that something needs to be done about the amount of inflation that is on every server.
Message Edited by atimes on 03-17-2004 03:55 PM
One of their stated goals for the crafting change (or "nerf") rather was to try to help stabilize the economy. They admit the economy is out of whack but the change was not the way to fix it.
Again people with no economic sense are trying to do business. Take this doc the original poster is talking about who's paying 200 cpu. Eventually even he had to stop or he would go broke. Now he's got his meat but at what cost?He's raised the bar for all future docs, he's nearly broke himself and every other doc will go broke trying to buy meat in the future. The docs will then turn around and sell stim A's for 10K just to try to recoup costs because one doctor with zero economic sense inflated the price of meat so high simply because he wanted it "now".
Once docs can't afford 200cpu for meat (but there may always be one or two who might) the price may come down but again you see my point.
I'm not an economist but I have enough sense to realize that when a single unit of meat costs more than a shuttle ticket something's wrong.
That would be like walking into wal-mart and buying a piece of steak for 100 bucks and buying an airline ticket for 99.
Message Edited by atimes on 03-18-2004 09:41 AM
forget the gun and pick up a sword. Melee combat is where it's at.
Toughness, ool animations, high damage output
It's got the works.
for people advocating getting some combat skills and go hunt the meat yourself, well it will work providing you're making the buffs for your own use.
i sell an average of 200 sets of buffs each week,4 days to complete the factory runs on 4 factories, 2 days to sell out, and sunday off, heh. each run takes about 25k units of meat. been doing that for 3 months now i think.
sure i can collect 25k units of avian meat in a week, but i have limited playtime. do i want to spend all my time online hacking down nunas? obviously not. and i still want to make a sustained effort in the sale of the best packs on my server. only thing left for me to do now, unguilded and not too hot abt the GCW, is to hologrind and to see how much i can earn.
i'm current purchasing dath avian meat (OQ 900+ PE 800+ DR 700+) for 80 cpu. i started at 40 i think, then someone upped to 50, then another offered 60. So i thought **edit** and offered 80. works ok for me, even though i didntget as much as iwould have like to, not even at 80 cpu.i was so pissed after i idiotically deleted a 50k stack the other day (along with the last of my nice gas).
i have the buying power so why not use it? i'm still buying, always am. some folks think i'm trying to corner the market, to monopolise. well, i am. and why not? it works this way in the real world too, though it's not as simplistic as in game. earn some money, invest them in better stuff, make some more money, invest more into better stuff, make even more money, and so on and on...
idon't need toremind myself that i to started off a newbie. no creds, no sugar daddies, nada. i picked some missions, grab a gun, shoot some kaadus, earned some creds. rinse and repeat until i have enough for some buff packs. sell buffs at coronet. earned more money. buy more packs. sell some more buffs, buy more packs. rinse and repeat again. until i can afford to upgarde my harvestors. bought like 2 new ones. then went back to coronet. all this while keeping an eye on the resources and collecting as much of the good ones as i can. work my ass off and it's back to coronet again.
until i finally was ready to start a small business. started off selling only stims B, then wound packs.........bit by bit until buff packs only a long time after that. i'm now really, really rich. days of being outbidded by other doctors in forums resouces are over. why should i even think of returning? ok maybe i'm just rambling...