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Thread: That's It.I've had it. Put in an option to perform a Buff Removal
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Physion
Mon Feb 23, 2004 9:41 am
#1
Yes. Add a freakin' Buff Removal System. I am completely and utterly fed up with being a master Doc, Maxed out Treatment Bio clothes, 110 med droid and 900+ Enhance Packsto get 15..yes FIFTEEN buffs averaging 1500. One was even 1090....I hate going to hunt and having a buff and hunt session ruined by something that shouldn't be so awkwardly Random... I get the same stupid buffs whether I have on bio clothes or not. What's the point of getting the best advantages for your character if it doesn't work in the first place? Offer a Debuff or make it so at a certain level you have a min/max...
I fee like sreaming....
/SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Jodas Kast
Master Doctor...yea right....
Master Doctor...yea right....
Message Edited by Physion on 02-23-2004 08:42 AM
DenoErth
Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:03 am
#2
I don't like the range of buff results, either. I don't know if debuff is the answer. I'd like to see the ranges tighten up a bit around the power of the medpacks - not direct relationship, but just not quite so wide a range of results. Here's why:
This is a game, but it's supposed to be somewhat like what "reality" in the Star Wars galaxy would be. Part of this "reality" is that we are dealing with biological forms with the Medical profession. Gun makers might be able to craft an item to a consistant precision measurement, but with biologicals there is nothing percise about the job. Also, once an agent has been introduced to a body, removing it isn't easy.
Yeah, yeah - this is a science fiction game and some folks think anything should be possible. But remember, science fiction is fiction based on our knowledge of science. If it a game like this becomes too fanciful, it loses it's integrity.
Killtacular
Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:11 am
#3
I would agree with the range of the meds being more strict, however...if you offer a de-buff, you would see people walking around with ham bars that are extremely high all the time
MyT_Chicken
Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:13 am
#4
I like the randomness, and if they do add a Debuff, I will never use it. and if people complain they better cough up another 10k for a new set of buffs.
Okin_Sin
Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:13 am
#5
Um lets quit asking for this stuff guys ... havn't you been watching the way soe works? 1500 is a nice buff, yes it would be nice to always hit high ones, but if SOE fixes this, 1500 will probably be the high. Whenever Soe FIXES something it is nerfed to hell, I say lets just be happy with what we have, before they do fix it and we have a tight range of 1k max per stat.
VTmoon
Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:43 am
#6
Okin_Sin wrote:
Um lets quit asking for this stuff guys ... havn't you been watching the way soe works? 1500 is a nice buff, yes it would be nice to always hit high ones, but if SOE fixes this, 1500 will probably be the high. Whenever Soe FIXES something it is nerfed to hell, I say lets just be happy with what we have, before they do fix it and we have a tight range of 1k max per stat.
I agreee. they said if they fix it and use a channel other than the meds one we will lose the low but also the high buffs.
DenoErth
Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:14 am
#7
MyT_Chicken wrote:
I like the randomness, and if they do add a Debuff, I will never use it. and if people complain they better cough up another 10k for a new set of buffs.
Excellent point! And this could be considered the de-buff option. If they don't like the levels they received, we can "de-buff" them by killing them, res-ing them and then having them buy another set.
MyT_Chicken
Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:27 am
#8
Whow man...don't drag me into this....I want nothing to do with debuffs.....
MyT_Chicken
Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:42 am
#9
Also, so that I'm clear on why I don't want De-buffs is this.
1. I hunt all my resource myself, I do not buy resources.
2. It takes me almost one week to get all the good resources to make a run of buffs that are better then my last ones.
3. If Debuffing is aloud, that means I have to !!!WASTE!!! Buffs on whiney ass people.
4. Most likely people aren't going to pay for a new set of buffs, but thats my rule, weither I have to kill them, or use a debuff issue. A set of buffs costs 10k PERIOD.
5.I really don't feel like talking to, looking at, or buffing some guy that just talked **edit** about my buffs sucking.....then asking for a de-buff....just so I can rebuff with the same EXACT randomness.
Its as plan as day.....De-buffing is gonna cause more hurt then ninja buffers. Its as simple as that.
taloncard
Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:59 am
#10
better solution get rid of the stupid med rating system. what does a rating of 900 mean anyway?
make the rating system=the mimimum treatment
I.e a buff pack rated at 900 should give a minimum buff of 900
a stim pack rated at 100 should heal for at least 100
that would eliminate some of our guesswork
make the rating system=the mimimum treatment
I.e a buff pack rated at 900 should give a minimum buff of 900
a stim pack rated at 100 should heal for at least 100
that would eliminate some of our guesswork
MyT_Chicken
Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:08 pm
#11
taloncard wrote:
better solution get rid of the stupid med rating system. what does a rating of 900 mean anyway?
make the rating system=the mimimum treatment
I.e a buff pack rated at 900 should give a minimum buff of 900
a stim pack rated at 100 should heal for at least 100
that would eliminate some of our guesswork
thats how it works already, where have you been?
Lexy
Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:41 pm
#12
Start using +25 wound treatment Bivoli Tempari. It stacks with BE clothes for 150 total wound treatment (the mod raises your base wound treatment, not add to it like BE clothes). Check your skill mods after using bivoli and you'll see what I mean.
I spent 3 hours in Coronet yesterday buffing, to test. With 855 power kits, My low buff used to be 1050, my high buff was 3200. But with Bivoli, my low is 1200 and high is 3500. And now, I'm hitting 3k+ on stats multiple times for customers. Several times already, I've hit 3000-3500 on 4 stats for a customer (and the other 2 stats were all above 2400 too so they were happy
)
I spent 3 hours in Coronet yesterday buffing, to test. With 855 power kits, My low buff used to be 1050, my high buff was 3200. But with Bivoli, my low is 1200 and high is 3500. And now, I'm hitting 3k+ on stats multiple times for customers. Several times already, I've hit 3000-3500 on 4 stats for a customer (and the other 2 stats were all above 2400 too so they were happy
)
Traigus
Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:47 pm
#13
Don't forget to charge for the extra expense of having ot buy the food.
-T
-T
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