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FeartheLettuce

Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:35 pm

I was buffing at the mining outpost on dantooine. I had a constant line and was spamming the exact lowest stat and times on the buffs. A pair come up buy a buff. I start buffing one guy and the buffs are hittng in the 1700s(regular 2274+), i /diag him and he has over 450 BF. I kindly tell him "Your battlefatigue is really lowering the buffs, you should get it healed". He says ok and goesto get it healed. I continue buffing and he sends me a tell along the lines of 'if i come back after it is healed will you rebuff me for free?' I ignored it, he was a noob and I figured he would go away. He comes back and wants a rebuff. I /addignore him. His friend sends me a tell demanding for his money back. I reply with "Why should I refund his money?" "Your didnt buff him" he said. LOL that one made me laugh. I told him it wasnt my fault that his BF was affecting the buffs. The guy says hes reporting me.

Was I wrong? Should I have rebuffed him, even though the low buffs were 100% his noob fault? I probably shouldnt have ignroed him the first time, but thats the way I handle noobs, I ignore them... Also, I have never been reported before

does anyone have experience with this? am i going to be visited by a CSR

and killed

??? Im kinda scarred yet Im really laughing right now lol.... mommy I dont wanna die

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Atrico

Fri Mar 26, 2004 12:09 am

#2

have had a few like, but my norm is about 2300 or so first buff I did on this one guy was 1100 looked he had about 700 bf, so I stopped buffing him, told him to get his ass healed and come back and I'll finish, now I got diag as a hotkey on my buff bar and check em before I start

Ethalsar

Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:46 am

#3

Don't think you were strictly in the wrong - he paid for a service and got it, it was his own BF that was the trouble with the quality of the service, nothing wrong with the job you did.

However, I think you might have been a little severe to a noob. The poster above says he now /diags all clients, not a bad idea in principle but a pain! I'd probably have re-buffed for free if I was convinced this was an honest case of new player not knowing how this worked. Or at least given say 30% of the cash back if the stats were 30% lower than expected.

Best idea is probably stopping when your first buff comes out low and asking if they want to (a) either get healed and come back (you'll rebuff that one stat for free and give a warning that you're being nice about this and that clients must check their BF before being buffed!) or (b) just take the low stats at the price advertised.

However, you certainly shouldn't have any problem from being reported about this incident.

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DarthBeans

Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:41 am

#4

I think people are over using the word n00b. It now means absoloutely nothing as everyone seems to throw it as the first insult now. You were right not to rebuff because it costs you a set of buffs no matter what the result, but ignoring him because he's a "n00b" is simply arrogant, he's not going to develop as a player if people don't inform them of how the game works, if you do so and he persists then it's fine to ignore as you gave them a chance. CSR won't do anything so no need to worry about that.

Ophiiade

Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:46 am

#5

As a Doctor, particularly making money from buffing, it really is your responsibility to either advertise that BF severely lowers the buff that you provide, or /diagnose every patient. Not everyone know's that BF has a negative effect, and until recently, it wasn't common knowledge among all Doctors. 250bf is the cap at which it starts affecting your buffs. Anything below that makes no difference. Advertise this when you advertise your buffs. I understand that diagnosing every patient is a pain, but to be perfectly honest with you they are paying for a service, and I would expect that to be included too if I was the customer.

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EnvieCorbantis

Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:59 am

#6

I think its pretty much common knowledge that BF severly hinders the use of buff packs but i always offer them buffs for the cost of what i pay for the packs if they dont like it the first time around. Unless this guy was a real noob he should know BF lowers the buffs and fixed it before even comming to you. If he was a noob and he didnt know then he couldnt possibly know that a 1500 buff isnt that great so i think its fairly safe to assume he was clueless as far as the buffing scene goes =p

chiefccw

Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:58 am

#7

He paid you for the full set. If he didnt check his Bf before its his own damn fault. You used YOUR packs to buff him, he paid you end of story.

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Rudoku

Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:14 am

#8

DarthBeans wrote:

I think people are over using the word n00b. It now means absoloutely nothing as everyone seems to throw it as the first insult now. You were right not to rebuff because it costs you a set of buffs no matter what the result, but ignoring him because he's a "n00b" is simply arrogant, he's not going to develop as a player if people don't inform them of how the game works, if you do so and he persists then it's fine to ignore as you gave them a chance. CSR won't do anything so no need to worry about that.

No, "12 year old kid" is the first insult thrown. And the battle fatigue stuff is in the manual.

Trick-eld

Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:10 am

#9

Have you ever tried to rebuff someone you buffed with high BF after they cleared it up? I tried it last night and was unable to reapply. Maybe the game is tracking the Power of the buff pack itself, and not the effective hit?

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DasShadow

Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:13 am

#10

Well normally I stop after the first stat buff and ask them to heal their BF and come back to me....and then I do the rest of them. It is kinda sucky getting buffed ALL stats and then being told to heal my BF cuz sometimes I dont check my BF until something like "buffing" reminds me.

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Castigula

Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:23 am

#11

FeartheLettuce wrote:

I was buffing at the mining outpost on dantooine. I had a constant line and was spamming the exact lowest stat and times on the buffs. A pair come up buy a buff. I start buffing one guy and the buffs are hittng in the 1700s(regular 2274+), i /diag him and he has over 450 BF. I kindly tell him "Your battlefatigue is really lowering the buffs, you should get it healed". He says ok and goesto get it healed. I continue buffing and he sends me a tell along the lines of 'if i come back after it is healed will you rebuff me for free?' I ignored it, he was a noob and I figured he would go away. He comes back and wants a rebuff. I /addignore him. His friend sends me a tell demanding for his money back. I reply with "Why should I refund his money?" "Your didnt buff him" he said. LOL that one made me laugh. I told him it wasnt my fault that his BF was affecting the buffs. The guy says hes reporting me.

Was I wrong? Should I have rebuffed him, even though the low buffs were 100% his noob fault? I probably shouldnt have ignroed him the first time, but thats the way I handle noobs, I ignore them... Also, I have never been reported before does anyone have experience with this? am i going to be visited by a CSR and killed ??? Im kinda scarred yet Im really laughing right now lol.... mommy I dont wanna die

my question to you is why did you ignore the poor guy? If you would have replied and explained it to him, the situation might have been contained. the problem I find with most docs, it that most docs I have run into in the game have this superiority complex or a mightier than thou attitude?? I wonder why. Many times I have seen docs standing around an outpost and I politely send them a tell" hi there, are you buffing today?" everytime i ask this lately I just get ignored, no response?? are docs too good to respond to the average player now? do you guys actually think other players unworthy of your responses? and that is the problem I see with your issue. a simple explanation would have saved you the trouble you had.

I am currently working on master doc with an alt, lets see how it goes, so far its been fun, I have met lots of cool people. I have found no need to simply ignore people so far, but we'll see as I move up the ladder.

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Gaedel

Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:26 am

#12

Rudoku wrote:

No, "12 year old kid" is the first insult thrown. And the battle fatigue stuff is in the manual.

Unless you are a 10 year old kid.

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Scoooter

Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:40 am

#13

I usually check their bf first if I forget I stop after the first stat. But lets face it he paid, he got service. Overall his bf is not your responsibility. If he reports you you have a good argument. He did not get cheated. He paid, he got service. The only way a report would stick is if he paid and you did not give him service.

Pretty much everyone knows a high BF will affect all meds. So I would not sweat it

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