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Thread: Ok I am confused can someone help me make the best D Buffs?
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Cry4Dawn
Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:03 am
#1
For all 6 stats what should I have in my resources to make the best buff I can make for D's? Long lasting with the biggest amount of buff I can get 3600 if possible. I try to get QQ in the highest amount I can but that doesnt seem to help much.. Can someone give me a low down for all 6 Buffs what I should be using. QQ, PE, and whatever else would be ideal. I totally dont understand all the webpages with use this % and that %....
Agent001
Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:16 am
#2
avian meat - OQ, PE, DR as high as possible
Reactiv Gas - OQ, DR as high as possible
Advanced Biological Effect Controller
Advanced Solid Delivery Shell
Advanced Chemical Release Duration Mechanism
jkray8472
Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:37 pm
#4
Reactive Gas - the OQ adds to the power. The DR makes the buff last long.
Avian Meat - The OQ and PE adds to the power of the pack. The DR makes the buff last long. The OQ counts for twice as much as the PE.
Advanced Solid Delivery Shell - Power is the only stat on this. Use Dolovite Iron and Domesticated Oats. The Iron needs to have the highest OQ you can find, and the Oats need to have the highest OQ/PE you can find. Again, the OQ counts twice as much as PE.
Advanced Chem Release Duration Mechanism - Power is the only stat on this. Use Class 4 Liquid Petrochem and Herbivore Meat with the highest OQ/PE you can find. Again, the OQ counts twice as much as PE.
Advanced Biological Effect Controller - Power increases the power of your buffs. Charges increases the number of uses each pack can have. Some people think that putting experimental points into charges actually increases the max power of the buffs. I can't prove or deny this. Use Lokian Wild Wheat and Tatooine fiberplast. The OQ/PE of the Wheat and the OQ of the Fiberplast all contribute to the power of the aBEC. Again, the OQ counts twice as much as PE. The OQ of the Wheat and the OQ/UT of the Fiberplast counts towards the charges on the aBEC. The OQ counts twice as much as the UT.
Hope this helps.
Kiarda Kismet
former Master Doc, Gorath
Avian Meat - The OQ and PE adds to the power of the pack. The DR makes the buff last long. The OQ counts for twice as much as the PE.
Advanced Solid Delivery Shell - Power is the only stat on this. Use Dolovite Iron and Domesticated Oats. The Iron needs to have the highest OQ you can find, and the Oats need to have the highest OQ/PE you can find. Again, the OQ counts twice as much as PE.
Advanced Chem Release Duration Mechanism - Power is the only stat on this. Use Class 4 Liquid Petrochem and Herbivore Meat with the highest OQ/PE you can find. Again, the OQ counts twice as much as PE.
Advanced Biological Effect Controller - Power increases the power of your buffs. Charges increases the number of uses each pack can have. Some people think that putting experimental points into charges actually increases the max power of the buffs. I can't prove or deny this. Use Lokian Wild Wheat and Tatooine fiberplast. The OQ/PE of the Wheat and the OQ of the Fiberplast all contribute to the power of the aBEC. Again, the OQ counts twice as much as PE. The OQ of the Wheat and the OQ/UT of the Fiberplast counts towards the charges on the aBEC. The OQ counts twice as much as the UT.
Hope this helps.
Kiarda Kismet
former Master Doc, Gorath
Cry4Dawn
Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:01 pm
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jkray8472 wrote:
Reactive Gas - the OQ adds to the power. The DR makes the buff last long.
Avian Meat - The OQ and PE adds to the power of the pack. The DR makes the buff last long. The OQ counts for twice as much as the PE.
Advanced Solid Delivery Shell - Power is the only stat on this. Use Dolovite Iron and Domesticated Oats. The Iron needs to have the highest OQ you can find, and the Oats need to have the highest OQ/PE you can find. Again, the OQ counts twice as much as PE.
Advanced Chem Release Duration Mechanism - Power is the only stat on this. Use Class 4 Liquid Petrochem and Herbivore Meat with the highest OQ/PE you can find. Again, the OQ counts twice as much as PE.
Advanced Biological Effect Controller - Power increases the power of your buffs. Charges increases the number of uses each pack can have. Some people think that putting experimental points into charges actually increases the max power of the buffs. I can't prove or deny this. Use Lokian Wild Wheat and Tatooine fiberplast. The OQ/PE of the Wheat and the OQ of the Fiberplast all contribute to the power of the aBEC. Again, the OQ counts twice as much as PE. The OQ of the Wheat and the OQ/UT of the Fiberplast counts towards the charges on the aBEC. The OQ counts twice as much as the UT.
Hope this helps.
Kiarda Kismet
former Master Doc, Gorath
Thank you for putting this into lamer terms.. Thats exactly what i was looking for. Not a book thats sounds like a real dr wrote it so once again THANK YOU you made my day
mosheg
Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:37 am
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both oq and dr contribute to duration (oq 40% dr 60%)
jkray8472 wrote:
Avian Meat - The OQ and PE adds to the power of the pack. The DR makes the buff last long.The OQ counts for twice as much as the PE.
Kiarda Kismet
former Master Doc, Gorath
i think that is incorect i did the math once. this is only corect if you includethe gas OQ
F= final quality of pack
OQg = overall quality of reactive gas gas
OQa= overall quality of avian meat
PEa = potential energy of avian meat
F= ((OQg + OQa)/2)*(2/3) +PEa/3 // reduce fraction and distribute twice
F= OQg/3 + OQa/3 + PEa/3
this means that the PE of avian meat counts the sameas the OQ of the avian only the averageOQ counts twice as much as PE .
but anyways in general 900+ number on OQ/PE will makeextreamly high powerenhance packs it's upto you to figure out where you to say what is good enough . high DR help duration .
btw i think those are the caps on subcomponant but not sure:
ACDRM/ASDS = 75~ power
ABEC = 25 power 25 charges
-i sugest always make the best schematics and mass produce enhance packs. it saves you alot of precious resources in the long run.
- match action enhance duration with other enhances . either use same resources or do some engineering.
Peadar
Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:50 am
#9
Doesn't matter... buffs are random..even with an awesome buff stim you could hit for 700 
Obata
Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:18 pm
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Peadar wrote:
Doesn't matter... buffs are random..even with an awesome buff stim you could hit for 700
They are random, but the effectiveness of the packs still matters. I never have a buff come out lower than the pack's rating unless the patient has high BF. Even with the built-in randomness, the effectiveness of the pack determines how high the population of your buff results will be (all other variables being equal). The randomness does disguise, in part, the difference between good packs and great packs, but it doesn't completely negate it.
flipthepimp
Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:29 pm
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First of all, thanks for the dumbed down explanations guys, I was a little confused by the doc guides as well, hehe. Now can someone help me out... Ive been wondering how much of a difference putting advanced subcomponents (adv BEC, etc.) really makes in the final product. I have read and heard arguments for and against but u guys all seem pretty knowledgable about it. Any help is appreciated! Also, I harvested some OQ 730 DR530 reactive gas, will that begood enough to make some decentD's or should I wait to get some OQ 900 stuff? Thanks in advance...
Agent001
Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:12 pm
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flipthepimp wrote:
I have read and heard arguments for and against but u guys all seem pretty knowledgable about it.
Someone was arguing that you should NOT use advanced components? What idiot was that? Using ACRDM and ASDS will add a hundred points or moreto your power (depending on the subcomponent stats, and ABEC will add 10 or more charges.
As for the gas, I never use gas that doesnt have 900 OQ.
Gilbert45
Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:45 pm
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I agree. You should never go lower than 900 on your OQ for the gas. The subcomponents count in the final product, yes. But the avian meat and the gas are the primary items that determine the outcome. Going short on those two will seriously inhibit the power of the buff. But ofcourse you can use the 700-something gas. But I would be very suprised if you will get a power above 800. Even with excellent avian meat and outstanding subcomponents.
Creeno
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