Carbineer Archive

Thread: BH not all u think it is

Rarin24
Mon Jul 28, 2003 3:17 am
#1

Be warned bear with me on my spelling, and remember its me who has to live with it 100% of the time


This is it, with 150 hours spent on my main (BH) Iam actually seriously contemplating, actually i alreadyam because i already have a potential carbanier (how ever u spell it) 30k into his going for novice. After reaching into the BH trade its not all what its cracked up to be, and u wait till comandos start rolling, their potched with no weapons yet and my brothers already out damaging me(vs. humanoids) not to mention i cant becomenothing elsebut aBH. ps we'll give up underhand shot if they let us do true BHing, live capture ofHard merchandise that we put u in our lock up and take u to the person who put the bounty out LD or no LD you stay in our cell till make our delivry.


As a carbanier iam not gonna whine about a BH killing me solo, thats his job, my job is dishing out the pain to mutliple targets, technically think about this for a moment who does more damage over all, the carb who hits 3 people + knock down with 300 damage each, or the BH who knocks 1 guy down and does 600 damage. You guys have some kick ass skills, the BH has some kick ass skill everyone has kick ass skills if you would just look at them and firgure out what theyre used in, and dont tell me their broken we have to drop the other classes to even it out, that'll be fixed till then u just have to wait.


1.Carbanier But heres the problem carbiniers are ment for mass assults (storm trooper style, D-day, get the picture),problem is servers limit pop #, everyones running aroundlike chickens with their heads cut off, some people have job others i have no idea how they afford to play (odd playinghours). Not everyone is into PvP(limiting pvp populations). The Battleground theres to many of them making them pointless (decreasing the pvp pop again) and thier in butt **edit** egyptmaybe if we could just buy a ticket to some place where a "major fight is brewing in some part of the galaxy" and the armies of both sides are forming up. maybe this is something we'll have to do our selfs like the old day Market of EQ in EC tunnel set up major safe houses on a planet pick a point build a kind of city and say come here with a group if u want PvP, pls dont suggest tantoonie its got enough traffic there to make for 10 life times.


2. Rifleman soloing out poor saps andmaking theircareer shorter real fast from hidden and far distances. problem mystically our RL gunshave a farther range than afuturistic Sci-fi world. Problemtaking out a very problematic general or person in RL in SWG 5 mins of freedom from that better player. Everyone and their dog can rush u (2 or more people) and melee your ass into the ground due to your upclose and personal snipping position, and ironicallythe weapon u use literally points a arrow right at u. Now i personally dont know much about this class soiam also building up a wookie in this area to test it out aswell. but here goes your sniper u lay on the side or above your boys soloing outothers and killing them,iam sure mostof us know what layingwith a rifle does, sends about 20 tracers at the target (what sniper would use this kind of weapon, like giving a sniper a m 60 in the night), they shouldmaybe get a increaseto aiming but take away the aim while running (what u guys suddenly using a shotgun when running) dont get pissy at me, your getting a bonus to standing/kneeling and laying acc with rifle. iam not sure about your increased range but id say 80 if not already would be fair, but get penalties while wearing armour with a rifle (if your using a pistol no pnealty rifle your screwed u lose your sniper aim bonus) iam not gonna really say much more i havnt played the rifleman enoguh yet or even touched pvp with it. So toast me if u want it'll be like water off a ducks back in this area because i dont care yet, and dont any of u non rilfemen think this is a accruate description of rifle. Currently as it stands a snipers role is to take care of a problem permanently, probelm is its just like being killed by another class in the game, your back in the fight in less than 5 mins if its a urban assult.


3. Pistolier you gotta get ride of that little distance problem you guys have, sever penalties to distance, but a higher lvl char if he wants should beable to use 2 pistols say his off hand had a neg 25 aim penalty yes hes gonna be doing major damage at close range but he aint gonna hit **edit** at long range. you guys are the quick draws, cantina fights, no one should be better, only rivaled by a teri kasi. problem cantinas lag, lag = slowed reaction = dead to anyone relying on speed, also if your in a cantina odds are your half dead. women chew us out for pickn bar fights on the feild well theres reason why pistols are considered "sidearms" by the time u get in close enough odds are good a carb or rifle just took you out or a tera kasi punched u with his last bit of str.


4. Bounty Hunterproblem, Shouldnt be in PvP, should have major drawback to faction standing. Your a BH your entire life is centered aroundkilling people (well more accruate is catching people and turning them in)for greed, there should be a 3rd faction in this game example the hutts or jabba, for crime. RP a BH looks like this, I dont need the attention, its like aputting a bell on a cats paw to keep it from sneaking up on a bird. I like the war because it creates chaos, nicly covering up my "legal" activities and pay cheques from"legitamit busnessmen". A thriving crime organization = more money in my account so why would i want to speed up the war. Why would i want to get killed for no profit at all, other than sence of duty, meh what ever. Both sides dont trust me because some BH are known to have shifting loylties when moneys involved, even though some of us are honest the general attitude rubs off onto them. If I work for someone its gonna be palpatine because he has more money to offer, but if he thinks iam gonna get energetic and take out more than what iam payed for hes gonna be dissappointed, because i dont like2 on 1 odds unless its me and a partner. Rebels will accept me at arms length because i could easly be a double agent since alot of them proably have bounties on their heads aswell, like a high ranking general, iam not just a Bh iam also an assasin.


5. Commando, NO WEAPONS nough said. SOE put these guys minerals in their getting screwed. I dont think anyone exept beta testers can accuratly rate these guys in PvP.


6. Teri Kasi student catch me in a dark ally and beat the hell out of me, yes catch u at 64 meters as range and u think you should beat the hell out of me, no. I seen one guy say **edit** why should a BH beable to take out a teri kasi, well this didnt just insult the BH it insults all ranged classes. I mean geez all this time the States have been going about this the wrong way, man what fools to invest in all those guns, tanks and planes when they coulda spent far far less on a bit of iron. you wanna bash my face in, in a bar fight fine, wanna sneak up on me and snap my neck on the field because i was a idiot, fine, but when u think u should be able to take a run at me from 70 meters away my guns blazing and still kick my ass uh uh. Now i doubt all of u feel that way, this is just aimed at the ones who do. But problem is its ranged warfare your automatically at a disadvantage when out in say a BF, or a duel with ranged. you own in close quaters, problem is name a dungen in SWG with the element of pvp, or name a ranged char dumb enough to get caught in one. your grt PvE, PvP you have your place but its on a hope and a prayer your able to use your char to its fullest. then again theranged classes unrealistic range attack is your best friend.


sigh 4 in the morning so bear with me. The problem is this game was thought up like a FPS stratagy, thing is theres no set maps like a FPS, theres no objectives to take no insentives other than simply killing the other person to gain faction and makehim lose it. Maybe if we could actually turn cities gain bonuses for the cities we hold while always having a safe point, example hoth (yes i know it fell just using it as an example of amain base) fro rebels and not corasant but another place for the empire. corasant should be the pride and glory of thefaction that owns it. there should be a 3rd faction(because as it is Jabbas is not worth the time or effort)for BH's and smugglers and anyone who wishs to walk the life of crime instead of just reb or imp. The game needs A battle ground whih we can fly to not walk to and get ambushed where we grind our points for when theres no raids. Because as it stands i hate this pvp system, either go all the way or dont bother atall your just gonna get these off balance cluster F's we've been having, problem is SWG u cant have carebear servers. were stuck in a rock and a hard place. SOE is trying to make everyone happy by having PvP but allowing people who dosnt want it to not have to join in, and thats whats causing the problem either go EQ way or UO line cant go 50 50.


Send in your thoughs, iam just trying to say know what your char does, know what he/she is best at 2 totally different class might have different skills but do the same damage in the end if used right. Also that this game needs some better thought and EQ2 if they dont figure something out might be our only hope. And dontt ell me dont like it dont play it, sigh. I like the game i really want it to be a big hit, but honestly iam seeing major flaws and you just cant seem to make a suggestion to make something better without making something worst. PS yes i know this is carb page hehe sry but i got to far to stop sry. that and this and BH seems to have the most action now days for forums.




----Man kind wont truly advance, untill they realize their only human.----
Rarin24
Mon Jul 28, 2003 3:29 am
#2

grrr **edit** edit.


This was suppose to be just a BH compair carbine. Not liek others have been saying but how were both actually getting screwed on teh cluster F of pvp, (the so often 20 man raid boiled down to 1 on 1) but the way i see it most of us combat classes are getting it, i didnt even bother with squad, combat medics or anything else other than the main combats. Basically my ability to RP a BH is getting screwed by the warfaction and your ability to RP a carb is screwed over by my abilities getting mixed up in pvp which really shouldnt even be happening in the first place. as my big rant above should get u the basic point of a carb vs. BH roles in life, your soldier iam a merc who only see's 2 things your lone figure in the dark and my cash waiting upon delivery. iam not saying its unfair to take u out 1 on 1. iam not saying its fair to kill u while your in a 20 man party because it boils down to 1 on 1 anyways iam saying a true BH shouldnt get mixed up in the fight at all and you should actually have squads backing u because that what you ment to do, you dont see stormtroopers going solo, their the best because they work like a team. A BH is the best at solo because he waits till your alone and slides a knife in your back as u turn down the ally way. This is why iam so wishing there was a criminal faction that let BH do what they do and left carbaniers alone unless they have a mark placed on their head, not to mention the penalties a BH should have when entering the rebels or imperial factions.




----Man kind wont truly advance, untill they realize their only human.----
RhyKnow
Mon Jul 28, 2003 6:23 am
#3

i think there might be some good content there, but you have the WORST posting style ive ever seen. you need some periods and commas in there man.



im sorry, but it really is uncomprehendable.





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RhyKnow
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Rarin24
Tue Jul 29, 2003 12:21 am
#4

yeah i know but with a real bad case of insomnia and 3 hours of sleep the night before then still up till 4:30 the next day u dont really care to proof reading, and sadly with that much sleep you pratically talk like that let alone write well enough.


and i cant fix it now that i have over 5 hours sleep to keep me going due to the stupid no edit option.




----Man kind wont truly advance, untill they realize their only human.----
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