Carbineer Archive
Thread: MOD's, it's Carbineer, not CARABINEER
I think we all want some consistency, whatever it it may be.
Forum name: Carabineer
Profession name: Carbineer
Title name: Carbinier
Actually, if you take a look at the Oxford English Dictionary, you won't find 'carbineer' in there anywhere. What you do find is both 'carabineer' and 'carbinier' as the accepted spelling and alternate spelling of the word that describes soldiers who use carbines.
/grindon
It's actually a pretty old title - you'll find accounts of it used in many military history books.
The original, and proper term, is Carabiner. Here's some etymology...
From German Karabiner, short for Karabinerhaken, hook for a carbine, from Karabiner, carbine, from French carabine.
French carabine, from Old French carabin, soldier armed with a musket
Ibiro wrote:
It's actually a pretty old title - you'll find accounts of it used in many military history books.
The original, and proper term, is Carabiner. Here's some etymology...
From German Karabiner, short for Karabinerhaken, hook for a carbine, from Karabiner, carbine, from French carabine.
French carabine, from Old French carabin, soldier armed with a musket
Ibiro wrote:
It's actually a pretty old title - you'll find accounts of it used in many military history books.
The original, and proper term, is Carabiner. Here's some etymology...
From German Karabiner, short for Karabinerhaken, hook for a carbine, from Karabiner, carbine, from French carabine.
French carabine, from Old French carabin, soldier armed with a musket
I'm not sure where you're getting your information Ibiro, but it would be helpful to provide a source for those of us who are intersted. Otherwise, it's unclear why we should accept what your saying as true.
On that count I too am guilty, as I misread the dictionary entry and am now quoting it to prevent passing on bad information.
The OED which is the accepted standard for the spelling of english words offers the following:
Spellings: carabineer (1st), carbineer (2nd), carabinier (3rd)
Definition: A soldier who carries a carbine.
Etymology: [from the French carabinier, from carabine, meaning carbine.]
Earliest cited usage: 1672 T.Venn wrote in Military Observer: "That the Harquebuzier and Carabinier be often exercised to shoot bullets at a mark.
Another cited early usage: 1721 Bailey: Carabineers, horse-men who carry Carabines.
And from 1873 in an issue of the Daily News: 17, Sept. "Yesterday, five Carabineers...gave evidence in farour of the claimant..."
More information than probably anyone wanted, but I wanted to make my earlier post accurate and,again, this is the OED, so it's pretty **edit** hard to argue with it.
Thetask now is to have the devspick one and apply it consistently.
/grindon
Personally, I think it's a hidden display of love for the Pirates of the Caribbean with some sexy sexy pirates. Now if only I could become a Mon Calamari Captain Jack Sparrow...