Carbineer Archive

BH say that if they use carbines they spend their extra points in a tier of carbineer..

Now, my question is.. has anyone ever tried mastering carbineer and getting enough BH to get all 4 of the carbine tiers and a couple points in investigation or something? Sure, you went through all the trouble of master scout for 6 box's in BH.. but wouldnt this, in essence, make you the ultimate Carbine user?

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FireNavagater wrote:

BH say that if they use carbines they spend their extra points in a tier of carbineer..

Now, my question is.. has anyone ever tried mastering carbineer and getting enough BH to get all 4 of the carbine tiers and a couple points in investigation or something? Sure, you went through all the trouble of master scout for 6 box's in BH.. but wouldnt this, in essence, make you the ultimate Carbine user?

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That is how I am built out. Bounty Hunter Carbine IV and Master Carbineer. I can deal out some on holy damage, but unitl the HAM's get tweeked a little bit I am thinking pistol may have been a better route to take, but I don't plan to grind all that exp again.

Well hopefully they fix the HAM cost on carbines.

Im seriously considering going this way hehe..

Guys, I highly doubt they are going to "fix" the ham costs. In their minds they more than likely AREN'T broken. HAM costs are in place to keep you from just using your specials constantly, if you were meant to do that, there would be NO ham costs. Have any of you having a prob with ham costs, tried using default attacks, throwing in specials every few shots? It works. It works great. Now, as for say a doctor, they CAN use their specials every time, because they can afford to enhance their health and action stats, completely reducing the HA costs to 0, leaving you with like -23 mind points per special.

I completely agree that a BH should be the best combat class int he game and not because they had to spend so many points (god that is a weak argument), but because, they are just that, a bounty hunter. What I think most peoples problems is, that a bounty Hs carbine skill tier, practically sums up the ENTIRE carbine class, minus all the bonuses ofcourse, which, lets face it, in the end don't matter since pretty much every classes first skill is one hit kill towards players, (give or take). I could really care less that a BH spams knockdown then promptly tries to declare his1337ness (**edit** that makes everyone laugh at them), but I think ALL classes knockdown shots need to be made wehre you can't use them over and over, ofcourse, this won't matter anyway until they fix the pvp combating, because as it is, one getting put on the ground is all it takes to put in the finishing shot. I don't think they should gimp BH, I htink they should gimp ALL combat classes.

ive done it

Carbineer gets a few things over BH.

Such as Defense Bonuses (I know they arent much, but they are revamping it)

Remember

Carbineer is being revamped.

Im a master Carbineer and a BH, and i am almost unstoppable, unless some bloody really cheap pistol shot.

that is my plan. no quite so we can snipe all the noobs screaming nerf the BH that just PKed me.

I'm currently a Master Carbineer and have Bounty Carbine IV and I have to say it is indeed an extremely powerful combo. I agree with Lamron7 when he said that the carbine HAM cost isn't likely going to be "fixed" (by much.) From my experience, I can see how it's there to keep us from being overpowered. There are currently three things that can be done to offset the higher carbine HAM cost--group with a medic, use tatooine sunburns, or stop spamming those specials (base carbine damage is awesome.. use it more!) By the way, it's not all about spamming the Knockdownfires. Ever tried Chargeshot1? It is the most effective knockdown the carbine user has, but it comes at a significantly higher HAM cost.

I say it's all currently balanced and I like it just the way it is. Just fix the darn skills and this will be a powerful class.

Pistoleer's still seem to be alot more powerful. They can master pistoleer and get the BH pistoleer 4.

With that combo, they can do mind bleed or health bleed, and knockdowns twice as fast as any carboneer/bh with the faster pistols.

The reason why Carbine HAM cost is, IMO, broken is that it isnt inline with the other weapon HAM costs. I can understand Pistol having lower HAM costs because they are a faster weapon, but rifles also do, and are much slower(and has the ability to reliably two shot people).

Bounty hunter, IMO, shouldnt be the best with thier respective weapon. From a game pointof view, they get more versatility and decent effects on their abilities and, from a life point of view.. bounty hunter's jobs arnt to kill people but to subdue them, prefferably without the use of force.... but that part is a little off topic.