Carbineer Archive

Lets assume roleplaying isn't a reason for the purposes of this discussion.

I am working my way up towards Novice Carbineer, and am reading in some places that there is no good reason for me to do so.

As I understand it, Carbines are terrible special-action-cost wise, upcomming fix or no. We basically have the same abilities as Pistoleers, but with much worse action cost.

Even with the fix upcomming, why should I not take Rifleman?

I really want to play Carbineer, but I dont want to be a gimp forever.

Even when it is fixed, what is the pro's/con's of a Carbine?

Every class has it's advantages. Ranged Knockdown (carbine), Mind damage (Rifle, Pistol), melee knockdown (Pistol). Carbine's have very bad action costs for their moves but they can do some very good damage (Crippling Shot, Burst Shot) and have very nice knockdowns (charge shot). Also, 4 of the carbines have armor penetration. The riflemen can attack the weakest(usually) pool and does some very high amounts of damage as well as very high armor penetration. The pistol attacks the health (generally hit group pool) and is very quick and powerful and has the best ranged defenses but with low armor penetration.



This is suppose to be a seperate paragraph.. don't know if it will be.
It really depends on your style of play. It seems that the riflemen is very popular for it's high damage and ability to hit the mind pool. With the carbine you'll be able to pull off some good damage. Burst Shot seems to be a good skill, which I'd get ASAP. The carbine excells with it's ranged knockdown moves. However, you most likely won't be getting a ranged knockdown move for quite some time unless you go the route of the BH.



The Carbine isn't really that bad at all. It's really a good combat class. The biggest problem for most is getting a decent weapon that won't incap them and relying on the CDEF. I get outdamaged by riflemen and pistoleer because I'm stuck using a CDEF. If I move to a higher weapon, I can compete easily but take a lot of damage doing so.

What is all this BS about being stuck using a CDEF. Don't listen to them there are plenty of awesome carbines out there that are way better than a CDEF. On the server I'm on, Intrepid, there are Laser and EE3 carbines with very good special costs and way more damage than you'll ever get out of a CDEF. Sure you can deplete your action and health chaining specials, but when you can get the damage of a CDEF special, firing normally and get over a grand of damage using your specials, you don't need to.

Kaelle see the post titled Carbine Fix.

kaelle,

hehe its jojo man, i ran into you around iduno's shop. trust me man, the carbines we are using do not have good special cost compared to a scout blaster or a laser rifle. they are simply better than what we have been using. carbines will be fixed, its my chosen class too so dont give up before the patch!

jojo (intrepid)

I too am using Iduno's carbines. They are better, but still not good enough :-P.