Carbineer Archive

Well ive come to the conclusion that these stats are realistic, just get the **edit** skills working SOE, dont nerf our melons instead. but in the game sence of it all no its not fair, if PvP was limited to certain areas like DAoC then we could have those big mass battles that could use stratagy put the BH at a disadvantage(BH have to tend to stay put due to no movementacc bonus's and they can only target 1 person at a time)and put the carb's in their situation (lotsa people and hair flying in the middle of it all), then again this wouldnt be proper RPG because rebels areusing a hit and run style ofwarfare.

In short, what the game needs to do to make it even which is no different than, whats that type of race, theyre like nascars, could even be them, all the bodies are the same, the engines are the same, chassie, drive tran, everyhting is the same but paint and the driver.

But wait thats no fun, so lets make it realistic, "lifes not fair" or "lifes a bitch"anyone hear that comment, or felt it, if u havnt felt it then you really should get out of jr. high before playing a game like this. right now this is where weare (read your starwars novels, just because u seen all the movies dosnt mean your up to snuffon theRPG of starwars) Iam a bounty hunter, we really shouldnt be in PvP in the first place thats the thing.

1. I just took a job, i beat another bounty hunter to the mark, he gets pissed at me dont really wanna run into him again.

2. Why would I want to limit my job offers by joining a side.

3. I hunt people down, I hand them over to people like jabba who gets what he wants out of them then feeds them to his rancor or sarlac, sarnac what ever. Dosnt exactly make me friends with just everybody

4. if i do join a side its gonna be imperial, personally i dont care who wins or losses its just palpatin has more money to offer someone with my talents.

5. why would i fight directly in the war when theres no profit to be made and theres a chance i'll get killed.

6.No one trusts me, and iam really untrusted if iam not a human bounty hunter going for the imperial faction. Wanna know why iam not trusted by either side, because first odds are good the rebels, particually the leaders have bounties on their heads from palpatine (even though he dosnt like dealing with BH's) and a bounty hunter tends to have shifting loylties to who ever has the deeper pockets, this might not always be true for some BH, but that dosnt mean this reputation dosnt rub off on to the more honest ones.

7. with eveything i just listed about a BH, do you really think i want my name out on the street about every move i make, everyone i kill. Its like puttinga bell on your cats paw or neck so he cant sneak up on the birds. Why would i want my name as being a BH known, what weapons i have, what damage i do, how resistant my armour is, its all draw backs when going up against a PC bounty when thatability finally comes into the game.

Basically if you want to RP the proper way of starwars, learn abit about it, dont jst watch the movies and think your good. also when RPing remember lifes a bitch, think that General last words was "this world sucks" afteran assasin can sneak in his tent and blow a poison tipped dart into his neck via blowgun, **edit** rights he did, thats our job in this game we catch u alone we slide a dagger into your liver and twist but if someone catchs us and joins in were screwed.

But if you want fair play even terms this isnt yor game go play a FPS, a good one to check into might be planetside its not player owned servers even made by SOE, because thats the only place where true even terms are gonna be found another one is Americas Army, its free just go download it, its the game i played to hold myslef over till this was released and i liked it, you were as good as u can be no character flaws, just all u, and your connection, unless u cheat and use aimbots, god or smokeu pansy ass.

What i wish was this was TRUE pvp, more penalties to the people fighting, guards might jump in kill u both, make items lootable, bounties to be placed, wanted lvls. But then no one would like it and everyone would cryso, what the hell GONERF's, GO NERF's because i played EQ your gonna get what u want, then iam gonna get what i want, then your gonna get what u want and so on, its just gonna be one big circle and every time they change something theres gonna be all new posts just like this one, so if u think your gonna even it out it wont be evened out it will change all over again when they release the second wave or copies to the public and we all have advanced characters and everyone else is starting out with 250 credits and a cdef pistol oh and 1 melon.

Not to mention u wait till someone like Kaoz quites playing or goes to another server, then your gonna see another change in game play.

All elite combat professions should be equal to each other in pvp. There can be no other way if the dev's want to make a successful combat system...

So, Cool1, you're saying BHs are the only ones who train to apply their weapon skills to other humanoids? So every last one of the stormtroopers, as well as other military personnel, are all bounty hunters, I take it?

What's that? No? Funny, because that's the logical assumption based on your assertation that no other class trains to shoot at other people.

The devs have never made a statement of relative power of the bounty hunter, much less saying that it should be the end-all be-all combat profession.

Stop talking out of your ass.

Bah you people are nothing but blind, ignorant, fools whom are jealous because your class gets its ass handed to it by another one. Life goes on, suck it up, shut up, and move out.

and actually, they DID make that comment.. and if you check under 'in testing' from the www.starwarsgalaxies.com main page, then under combat, you'll see the BH/Commando will be becoming even stronger. Whats that say? You're wrong, and the DEVS know it as well as us BH's.

Pwned. Your replies are moot, ive already stated the true facts. Now shush, children.

Erm, just because they're increasing the power of some of the commando/bounty hunter moves doesn't mean that either is meant to be the end-all be-all combat profession. Nearly all of the commandos special moves were not worth doing as they just plain sucked; it was better to use a CDEF then the commando specials! .. As far as the bounty hunter, most of their moves are underpowered as well, though there is one or two (such as underhanded shot) that were worth it. Just because there were legitimate power problems with a couple of the moves, and they are subsequently being improved, does not mean that the bounty hunter is supposed to be the best combat profession.

As far as the developers saying that the BH should be the best profession, I suggest you show me a link to a quote. You're just using false conjecture, and assuming that because they're improving some of the bounty hunters weaker specials that the bounty hunter as a whole is going to become more deadly. This is simply not true, and no amount of attempts to belittle me and tell me I'm "pwned" is going to change that. Show me a quote, and I'll believe it.

You have falsely assumed that the bounty hunter would be the best combat profession. You have incorrectly seen the bounty hunter as a profession that will be able to stand up to the jedi. You have made a jackass of yourself, and it is I that gladly points that fact out to you.

... Ok, compare the skillpoints that it would take to get master carbineer, pistoleer and rifle?

Cool1, even if your views were correct(which they arent 100% wrong or right) you have done a incredible job of discrediting yourself with your behavior. You have the maturity level of a 14 year old and even if you had the end all solution to all the problems no one would care cause fraknly i dont think anyone has any respect for you or what you say anymore.

Cool1, you are so incredibly blind yourself it isnt even funny.

A moron with a gun can kill with no training at all.A well trained person will live a longer combatant life in general, but is always suseptable to death. Just because your "masterfully" skilled doesnt mean you can take anybody out, you are still vunerable.

A carbineer can kill a BH and vice-verse. The only difference between the two is that itsthe BH'sJOB to kill people, the carbineer just can if he wants to.

The carbineer puts in more xp into more skill boxes.

That alone should be reason enough for a carbineer to have better carbine skills then a BH. Last time I checked half your pre req skills have nothing to do with combat at all anyway. How does that equate to I should be uber combat.

Bobba Fett is the exception to the rule when it comes to BH. There where plenty of stupid BHs also. That would be like saying I play football so there for I'm as good as Brett Favre. Ahhhh..... No.

makalas- Just, shut up. Lmfao. You're wrong.

Listen here, slick. Let's think about this, thencompare this to RL or the Star Wars Galaxy.

A carbineer is trained masterfully in using one kind of a gun specifically. A BH is trained expertly, not masterfully, in multiple guns. This much is true.

However, a BH is someone raised and trained for eliminating Human Targets. A carbineer is just raised and trained for using a gun. Now.. think of it this way:.. someone who knows human weaknesses vs. someone who doesnt. The BH would obviously win... he would know weak points on which to attack or disable his target, while the uneducated carbineer would probably shoot anywhere. Like.. a punch them in the neck vs. punching them in the thigh.. which do you think would hurt worse/do more dmg?

Let's compare this to Real Life...."1" is well trained at the rifle range with accuracy and speed with his gun. "2" is well with his gun, and at eliminating moving, thinking, human targets. Which do you think would win if a confrontation sprung up in a bar? Thought so.

Let's compare this to Star Wars.... Han Solo is well trained with his pistol skills, etc.. yet he still gets busted by Boba. Now, true, there was no actual confrontation and boba had help from a sith lord.. BUT the point is, BH's are TRAINED to think and act in human confrontations and eliminations. Carbineers are not.

Now, you've been corrected. Don't even bother replying. There is no try. That cannot be refuted.

ok, I had planned to go through and collect every single one of you carbineers, but I'll do this instead. This was quoted from someone elses's post above.

"But the Dev's know this and they have repeadetly said that the BH is only second to a jedi 1vs1. Search for the dev posts with bounty hunter in them and you will find the quotes."\

This is fact. B1tch all you want.. it will NOT make a licking difference. You will be owned by a BH, plain and simple.

Cool-

I don't think they have put in Bounty Hunter missions with player targets yet so its made to be a PvE proffesion. The fact that you talk about Bounty Hunters being trained in killing Players... the right stpot to hit them. Carbineers are trained to target people in their action pool and kill them. Its called leg shot.