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Thread: Afraid of impending Nerfage (skill tapes)
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Tsumitsuki
Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:31 am
#1
Ok its time for me to raise my ugly mug again ready for another roasting. 
Over the last day and a half a large (comparatively) number of high end tapes have appeared on the forums looted from the BH missions. I'm a BH myself and personally Im loving it. But I can see a nerf comming. Other professions are going to complain and whine "why is this uberloot only available to 1 specialised proffession" and "why are BH getting all the money so they can be rich when the rest of us have to work for it?" well of course one answer is anyone has the choice to grind as far as investigation 2 and remain level 80 in other proffs but of course that excludes those that prefer melee. Another answer is sell the tapes cheap to stop people comlaining but that wont work either (people with money will just buy the tapes cheap and sell them on later for a higher price thus driving the economy up even higher) and so I can see nerfage looming on the horizon.
There is one ray of hope in my opinion and it runs along the lines of this:
1) Nerf the tapes *but wait till you read the whole list*
2) Allow BH to form a loot hunting group
3) Allow grouped players to attack the NPC
4) Upgrade the loot according to the number of players in the group
5) Upgrade the mark according to the number of players in the group
There is after all precedent for BH hiring others, the shapeshifter in episode 2 was hired by Jango to carry out the assasination on Amidala therefore its not unreasonable that a BH in game could "hire" other group members to assist in taking down his mark.
This would effectively create missions that could be just for BH grinding (solo with a chance of a reasonable tape say +5 to +8) or with a full group you can have a tough loot hunting group where you might get something like a tape up to +25
perhaps there should be an item number 6) NO JEDI ALLOWED
regards
Tsumi
Tsumitsuki
Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:34 am
#2
Oh forgot to mention that the idea here is that it opens up the chances of getting loot tonon proffessions while still keeping the BH necesary and making them more useful to the general populace.
NoStyleGuy
Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:37 am
#3
it definately makes it more fair to other professions, but i fear the will still say "who cares if BH have to group, so long as they can get +25 SEA its not fair to us".
Eleutherios
Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:38 am
#4
That would make BH into a group loot profession. We're supposed to hunt marks, not loot.
Jedi_Xan
Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:38 am
#5
what? why? they gave this to us so we wouldnt "grief" the jedi. i wish people would stop with the nerf. I am not trying to flame ya, I'm not, but man... have you ever heard of self-fulfilling prophesy, and speak it into existence. Just leave it. Why give the trolls something to feed on.
Tsumitsuki
Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:39 am
#6
well I was assuming that the grouploot would be set to random as happens with many other loot hunts eg krayts.
FernGully
Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:39 am
#7
So, essentially, nerf loot drops for solo BHs, and create even better loot than what's dropping now for full, 8 man BH groups?
Hmm, if this is what you call a nerf, I'd hate to see what you'd call an upgrade.
Hmm, if this is what you call a nerf, I'd hate to see what you'd call an upgrade.
kaedo
Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:41 am
#8
I personally don't see this getting Nerfed......at least for a while.......as it's stated on this forum many times.....the majority of paying customers are BHsand Jedi......while that ethically doesn't mean it's fair to give us anything over other professions......it's a good business decision........personally I think they did this to calm the murky waters between Jedi/BHs. Everyone brings up the economy of our servers and how out of whack it is.......you can't logically control an economy simply by supply and demand........no in game economy is going to be reasonable......because people aren't reasonable......and you can't really control the flow of money into the game world like in real life.......which are what a National Reserve is for.......so there is no true way to balance the economy.....its unrealistic to think so.
Tsumitsuki
Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:42 am
#9
Eleutherios wrote:
That would make BH into a group loot profession. We're supposed to hunt marks, not loot.
But the loot is in now and I dont want it to go and I can see it being taken away for reasons above. Besides youre still hunting marks and my vision is for the marks to be considerably more difficult for more people in a group. I mean HARD, so taking down the mark will still be an achievement.
kaedo
Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:49 am
#10
I think it's kind of funny the way the devs keep trying to calm things.......when realistically........they should anticipate massive hatred toward BHs because of this......so really they're just moving hatred from Jedi to BH........any non-BH profession should be mad that we're getting all the good stuff. They should've just implemented this as a server-wide loot re-tool.......or at least announce that one is coming soon.
Hakuna1976
Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:49 am
#11
Like someone else said in another post, this has been out for just a little over 24 hours, and we are all already revamping it...(btw valid points but to me the BH profession is a solo profession and grouping kind of takes that feeling away, now maybe if they could limit the group to like 2-3 people...that would be a true hiring...otherwise you would simply have BH led uber loot farming)
Tsumitsuki
Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:53 am
#12
kaedo wrote:
I personally don't see this getting Nerfed......at least for a while.......as it's stated on this forum many times.....the majority of paying customers are BHsand Jedi......while that ethically doesn't mean it's fair to give us anything over other professions......it's a good business decision........personally I think they did this to calm the murky waters between Jedi/BHs. Everyone brings up the economy of our servers and how out of whack it is.......you can't logically control an economy simply by supply and demand........no in game economy is going to be reasonable......because people aren't reasonable......and you can't really control the flow of money into the game world like in real life.......which are what a National Reserve is for.......so there is no true way to balance the economy.....its unrealistic to think so.
I..... hope your right..... but I think......the whiners will get their way......as they have done in the past.
FernGully - not sure I understand you correctly but the exact figures need not be set in stone by my word alone. Im sure the devs have the final say.
Also to the person who mentioned a self fullfilling prophecy, yes I understand where you're comming from but have the devs not taken the holy bat of nerf to all that was fun in the past? (especially if one group shouted "unfair") did they not swiftly backhand the DJM instead of simply making it so that if you kill him once you cant kill him again and if you droppped the mission tough luck?
people will say "why should I bother going to the DWB or the Avatar when BH can get this stuff easily?"..
I dont think Im being a doomsayer.. I think Im being realistic and Im hoping that my idea will turn out to be a fair compromise. the BH present in exchange for not griefing jedi will still be there in the form of the armour schematics and the other drops.. Its only the powerful tapes Im talking about not the entire loot bundle.
Tumis
kaedo
Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:54 am
#13
Personally, I don't like hunting in groups......I like the solo play........I don't want to be forced into groups to get good loot.....If I hunt down an Elite Mark or Boss Mark and kill him.......then I should solely get the loot.
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