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Thread: I need help with KD defense...please offer suggestions....
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Tucheck
Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:34 pm
#1
Today I took a mission with a Jedi and the fight lasted lasted from 13:58:39 - 14:05:07, the Jedi then escaped briefly using FR. Once I caught up to the Jedi, the fight resumed from 14:08:27 - 14:12:13.
Total time of: 10 minutes, 1 second
Within that time frame, the Jedi attempted Advanced Saber Throw 18 times. The Advanced Saber Throw was effective and knocked me down 14 of the 18 times. Combined with the KD bug, I'm actually quite surprised the fight lasted as long as it did. I was knocked down 14 times. Wow!
As many of you already know me well enough to know I have the combat log in screenshots. I will simply post the times unless the actual screenshots are requested for further review.
13:59:36
14:00:08
14:00:44
14:01:18
14:02:12
14:02:46
14:03:10 - missed
14:03:22
14:03:44 - missed
14:04:02 - missed
14:04:27
14:04:34 - Jedi ran
14:08:32
14:09:23
14:09:59
14:10:32
14:11:03
14:11:49
What I found interesting, was when the Jedi decided to run....if you notice, shortly after the Jedi had 3 missed saber throws within a minute and a half, the Jedi decided he to call it's quits.
My luck finally ran out and I fell victim to the "KD bug" (which is STILL the 10% of the reason that pushed me over the edge to quit). Don't get me wrong, I'm really not here to whine. I made a noob mistake and did not keep my droids updated for the expected run. Thus I had to wait for a droid update. Had I been able to chase the Jedi properly, I feel confident that it would have been a victory. The loss is partially my fault, and enough so that even with the "KD bug", I could have fought this encounter better.
No, the real reason I made this thread was to point out that I have 230 melee defense. Yet even with this much defense, the Jedi was successful in performing a KD 80% (18 * .80 = 14.4) of the total attempts.
How do other MBHs combat the Advanced Saber Throw spam?
Additonally, I'd like to "tack" another issue into this thread. I STILL believe armor break is too overpowered.
Example:
14:08:46 Attack Tubeck with Improved Power Saber Attack and hits for 181 points (19 points of energy damage and 162 of electrical damage). Tubeck's armor absorbed 27 points out of 208 possible points of damage.
14:08:50 Attacks Tubeck with Improved Saber Leg Hit and hits for 173 points (11 points of energy damage and 162 of electrical damage). Tubeck's armor absorbed 26 points out of a possible 199 possible points of damage.
14:09:21 Attacks Tubeck with Improved Force Sap using the power of the Force and hit for 27 points (27 points of energy damage). Tubeck's armor absorbed 17 points out of 44 possible points of damage.
14:09:23 You have been knocked down.
14:09:23 Attacks Tubeck with Advanced Saber Throw and hits for 592 points (475 points of energy damage and 117 points of electrical damage). Tubeck's armor absorbed 358 points out of 950 possible points of damage.
14:09:26 You cannot Knockdown Recovery while Knocked Down
14:09:26 You cannot Knockdown Recovery while Knocked Down
14:09:26 You cannot Knockdown Recovery while Knocked Down
14:09:26 You cannot Knockdown Recovery while Knocked Down
14:09:26 Attacks Tubeck with Improved Saber Armor Break and hits for 221 points (124 points of energy damage and 97 points of electrical damage). Tubeck's armor absorbed 207 points out of 428 possible points of damage.
14:09:30 Attacks Tubeck with Improved Saber power Attack and hits for 1202 points (1040 points of energy damage and 162 points of electrical damage). Tubeck's armor absorbed 191 points out of 1393 possible points of damage.
The same saber was used (or at least it had the same name...get this..."DA SHAFT"), yet as we see form the combat log, by simply using Improved Saber Armor Break, this Jedi was essential able to add 1185 points of possible damage. We should all be thankful there is not an Advanced version of Saber Armor Break.
Questions, comments, suggestions? Please.
Total time of: 10 minutes, 1 second
Within that time frame, the Jedi attempted Advanced Saber Throw 18 times. The Advanced Saber Throw was effective and knocked me down 14 of the 18 times. Combined with the KD bug, I'm actually quite surprised the fight lasted as long as it did. I was knocked down 14 times. Wow!
As many of you already know me well enough to know I have the combat log in screenshots. I will simply post the times unless the actual screenshots are requested for further review.
13:59:36
14:00:08
14:00:44
14:01:18
14:02:12
14:02:46
14:03:10 - missed
14:03:22
14:03:44 - missed
14:04:02 - missed
14:04:27
14:04:34 - Jedi ran
14:08:32
14:09:23
14:09:59
14:10:32
14:11:03
14:11:49
What I found interesting, was when the Jedi decided to run....if you notice, shortly after the Jedi had 3 missed saber throws within a minute and a half, the Jedi decided he to call it's quits.
My luck finally ran out and I fell victim to the "KD bug" (which is STILL the 10% of the reason that pushed me over the edge to quit). Don't get me wrong, I'm really not here to whine. I made a noob mistake and did not keep my droids updated for the expected run. Thus I had to wait for a droid update. Had I been able to chase the Jedi properly, I feel confident that it would have been a victory. The loss is partially my fault, and enough so that even with the "KD bug", I could have fought this encounter better.
No, the real reason I made this thread was to point out that I have 230 melee defense. Yet even with this much defense, the Jedi was successful in performing a KD 80% (18 * .80 = 14.4) of the total attempts.
How do other MBHs combat the Advanced Saber Throw spam?
Additonally, I'd like to "tack" another issue into this thread. I STILL believe armor break is too overpowered.
Example:
14:08:46 Attack Tubeck with Improved Power Saber Attack and hits for 181 points (19 points of energy damage and 162 of electrical damage). Tubeck's armor absorbed 27 points out of 208 possible points of damage.
14:08:50 Attacks Tubeck with Improved Saber Leg Hit and hits for 173 points (11 points of energy damage and 162 of electrical damage). Tubeck's armor absorbed 26 points out of a possible 199 possible points of damage.
14:09:21 Attacks Tubeck with Improved Force Sap using the power of the Force and hit for 27 points (27 points of energy damage). Tubeck's armor absorbed 17 points out of 44 possible points of damage.
14:09:23 You have been knocked down.
14:09:23 Attacks Tubeck with Advanced Saber Throw and hits for 592 points (475 points of energy damage and 117 points of electrical damage). Tubeck's armor absorbed 358 points out of 950 possible points of damage.
14:09:26 You cannot Knockdown Recovery while Knocked Down
14:09:26 You cannot Knockdown Recovery while Knocked Down
14:09:26 You cannot Knockdown Recovery while Knocked Down
14:09:26 You cannot Knockdown Recovery while Knocked Down
14:09:26 Attacks Tubeck with Improved Saber Armor Break and hits for 221 points (124 points of energy damage and 97 points of electrical damage). Tubeck's armor absorbed 207 points out of 428 possible points of damage.
14:09:30 Attacks Tubeck with Improved Saber power Attack and hits for 1202 points (1040 points of energy damage and 162 points of electrical damage). Tubeck's armor absorbed 191 points out of 1393 possible points of damage.
The same saber was used (or at least it had the same name...get this..."DA SHAFT"), yet as we see form the combat log, by simply using Improved Saber Armor Break, this Jedi was essential able to add 1185 points of possible damage. We should all be thankful there is not an Advanced version of Saber Armor Break.
Questions, comments, suggestions? Please.
Rhylor
Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:04 pm
#2
He must of had Force Run on to hit for 19 points of energy damage.
Edit: he then took it off before he hit the second time.
Message Edited by Rhylor on 08-04-2005 05:05 PM
Tucheck
Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:42 pm
#4
Cpl_Fisher wrote:
you can kd him every 30 seconds to lol
Ummm, no. I DID look at my KD attemps as I DID try (not that much of a noob), and I found the results to be....outright pathetic. I'd rather ask the question based solely on the results of how many times I was KDed. *whisper* I think my percentage was around 12...
Carthax
Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:21 pm
#5
He had FR2 or 3 on when he was hitting you for teens Energy damage and full elemental. (95% reduction)
He armour broke you and remembered to turn it off, thus making full damage again.
He armour broke you and remembered to turn it off, thus making full damage again.
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