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Thraxor

Sat Aug 06, 2005 7:55 am

Sorry I know its being hashed out in other posts but felt the need to post anyway due to most aren't pointing out the simple math.

70 Complete missions, all 31k on up and trying to find the hardest I could.

About 15 Boss mobs out of those 70 missions.

4 BH armor schematics

3 total good WS loot drops.

2 tapes with decent stats

and a bunch of smuggler tools with a few other odds and ends.

Now do the math on a comparable loot mob like krayts. For 70 krayts I'd expect alot more that the loots listed above. On top of tissues theres the pearls, premium drops or not, and other loots like tapes that are worth millions and you would have alot more of them.

Krayts are freely availible to anyone who can make it to Tatt and drive in the desert a bit and you can group with friends who are actually willing to come along. And they are in the same spots, respawn so you can keep farming them, and easily found.

BH marks are done solo, no idea what planet you might end up on or how far you might have to track them, and even then you have to hope for a Boss mob, kill it, and then hope for a good loot drop.

Which one seems harder to you???

This is just one example. Theres plenty more mobs that are freely availible to all and you can bring your friends who actually would want to go for the known loot drops on those type of mobs.

Take a stand people!!!

Step up and be heard. Theres no unbalancing issues here. What, these people too ignorant to find a Giant freaking Krayt in a desert environment? Lord Nyax suddenly buy a camper anddecide to starttraveling the system planets hiding out in disguise?Did the NIghtsisters suddenly take up farming and become poor peasants? Theres plenty of mobs with plenty of potential loot out there you just have to get off you @ss and try to go get it.

Instead its a bunch of crying and whining from alot of spoiled children who take the "If I can't have it neither than you" attitude and complain and call for nerfs. Where are all these posters over the afk loot macroers? Where's all the nerf posts about jedi and others exploiting the DJK's and +25 tapes. Or the same over the afk melee loot campers before the CU? Those went on for many months and in some ofthose cases are still happening. Theres plenyt of loots dumped into the economy everyday, alot of it by the same "concerned" posters wanting to ruin others chances at getting their own.

Don't let a bunch of spoiled children ruin one of the last good points to being a BH. The BH/Jedi interaction is borked and everyone knows it and if SOE wants to pacify the BH community with some fun NPC marks with comparable loots for the effort/riskversus Jedi marks I'm all for it. If NPCs aren't your style go grab a Jedi mission theres plenty of full temps out there for ya.

Sure other proffs need some work and others could use a good revamp for their skills but don't let people tear down a good thing for BHs. I'm sure there will be changes made over the next few weeks and all but don't let the BH envy of others ruin it with nerfs. Seems alot of people are interested in nerfing something rather than, I don't know likemaybe fixing it, and make the game better for ALL.

Have a good one all and don't let the BH proffesion be decided by a bunch of NON Bounty Hunters. Stand up for your profession and be heard.

Thank you.

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TT1

Sat Aug 06, 2005 7:59 am

#2

I agree that the loot from the marks are overrated.

After all the marks, i can say for sure the chance of getting a good SEA is same as killing other NPCs along the same lvl.

It's a good option the devs added, but it's not going to change things for the long-term. (Aside from the slicing, things will be alot cheaper)

In a lil while more people will go back to jedi, because it's the end-game activity for end-game BHs.

Brete

Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:06 am

#3

The BH's in my guild are having a great time looting there marks , SEA's , schems , slicing tools , and weapon components.

No other prof can loot BH schems so how long will it be before jedi ask to be the only prof who can loot pearls and crystals?

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Zutan

Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:06 am

#4

The loot is the same stuff that other higher end NPCs in the game also drop.. with the exception of BH armor schematics I believe. Its nothing new, its just new to BH NPC marks is all. Its an awesome change but not really a significant one for the game overall.

Reyza

Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:14 am

#5

Thrax the krayt loot drops suck @ss atm.

I've killed 10 straight with just 1 pearl dropping and nothing else except for a stack fo krayt scales who's health bonus in the AS crafting process is broken. Good pearls go for at most 1.5mil on the server trade forum where I spend my $15 bucks a month.

The new BH loot tables aren't insanelyout of control but I'd much rather hunt BH marks where I know I'll get something than a krayt where the chances of loot dropping are pretty slim.

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Grimjakk

Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:21 am

#6

Reyza wrote:

Thrax the krayt loot drops suck @ss atm.

I've killed 10 straight with just 1 pearl dropping and nothing else except for a stack fo krayt scales who's health bonus in the AS crafting process is broken. Good pearls go for at most 1.5mil on the server trade forum where I spend my $15 bucks a month.

The new BH loot tables aren't insanelyout of control but I'd much rather hunt BH marks where I know I'll get something than a krayt where the chances of loot dropping are pretty slim.

Except for the slicing stuff, out of 10 kills, that's about right... and the AS crafting bonuses got fixed this morning.

In about 35 missions (about15-17 hours), I've gotten a bunch of slicing stuff, 3 SEA's (only 1 with useable stats), and 2 WS upgrades, 1 force crystal and 4 BH appearance shematics (2 of 'em duplicates).

And I submit that getting more slicing stuff is good for the game. If there's a problem, its that the mob your hunting doesn't drop slicing components often enough.

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Anarchicgorilla

Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:29 am

#7

Every one needs to consider this:

Supply and demand... 1 -2 mil for icb days ago now 100k.

These awesome weaponsmith componets are a good for something else people been complaing about... medics healing for too much. Well now we can dish out more damage to players.

But whenwe get some componets to beef up our weapons and dish out more damagepeople hate it?

This postshelps smugglers slice, weaponsmiths create, gives more damage potential for weapons, and lets BH's hunt and loot 1 0n 1 like there role states it.

Right now we are facing panic syndrom. If people would calm down an wait they would see the economy and game would start to balance.

The worst thing to do would be to nerf this (unless your a BH with tons of loot already).Because Ifthey did, all this new loot (like the weapon componets) that you think we are going to get a absurd amount of $ for, will really be worth an absurd amount because it will be nerfed and even rarer th before. -Think of 4 socket boots and no condition gear, that cannot be made anymore.

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Ephrath

Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:32 am

#8

I personally think most of these posters have never been BH. I am a fairly new BH and have been reluctant to grind investigation cause of all the work that has to go into it. The new loot system has given me more of a reason to grind this cause I am actually getting a return from it. To grind any other profession I can get in a group and get 10k per every mission that takes 5 minutes to complete. With BH it was 10-20 minutes to get 5-10k (lvl 20-55), 200-500 credits and no loot worth mentioning. Now I can grind and get something worth the same as everyone else who is grinding (mostly trando intraframes and toolkits). Why do people want to make my grind worthless again?

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Kirmor

Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:33 am

#9

Funny Guy....

Man how much slicing tool? (about 10 to 20) at 500k to 1 million each

Last week I was doing Bh mission and we was 3 or 4 doing that and come back to get a new mission.

Yesterday we was about 20 people doing that.

In 1 week I am pretty sure we gonna be about 50 peeps.

No need to be nerf, are you sure about that?

I'm not against good loot but When I do 10 mission and I got 3 schem, 4 illegal booster with 2 crystal.

It is too much loot for 3 hours online.

Have fun flaming me...

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CaixCatab

Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:41 am

#10

8 mandalorian intraframes

4 ICB's

5+ delicate triggers

8reactive micro plating

9 pieces of BH armour, in various schematics.

Three SEA's I don'tremember the stats off, but they're all on my vendor for 500K+.

Two CA's who are sitting on my servers trade forum, each with a current bid of 6 million.

Most recent drop was a CA with lightsaber experimentation +8.

edit: Actually, most recent drop was a 1H LS acc +15.

After approximetely... Less than 40 completed missions (And 5 forced aborts due to various bugs).

The drop rates needs another look. Yes, they should be higher than equal CL NPC's (as an individual BH mark is much harder to get to), but the current rate is beginning to strike me as a bit... on the silly side of things.

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Darvus

Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:52 am

#11

Did it occur to you people that are wanting nerfs that as a BH we have had our payouts reduced by more thaan 500% in the last 2 weeks???? Too much loot??? If you don't like how much loot you are getting, donate it to some of the poor rubes on your server that are not Bounty Hunters. Stop complaining no one is forcing you to keep the loot. Destroy it. Sell it. leave it on the mark!!!! Just stop complaining about getting very little compensation for what we have lost in payouts!!!!

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slave138

Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:54 am

#12

Kirmor wrote:

Funny Guy....

Man how much slicing tool? (about 10 to 20) at 500k to 1 million each

Last week I was doing Bh mission and we was 3 or 4 doing that and come back to get a new mission.

Yesterday we was about 20 people doing that.

In 1 week I am pretty sure we gonna be about 50 peeps.

No need to be nerf, are you sure about that?

I'm not against good loot but When I do 10 mission and I got 3 schem, 4 illegal booster with 2 crystal.

It is too much loot for 3 hours online.

Have fun flaming me...

Ummm... good? If the market is flooded with these new loots, the prices will drop to where most intermediate players can afford them, too. The slicing tool values are dropping thru the basement on my server (1-2 million each on ICBs dropped to 30k each on vendors). Sucks for those who like to feel 1337 but they're the least of my concern...

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CaixCatab

Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:56 am

#13

Darvus wrote:
Did it occur to you people that are wanting nerfs that as a BH we have had our payouts reduced by more thaan 500% in the last 2 weeks????

No, mostly since we still get the same amount as we used to once we actually kill a full template jedi, we just don't get to see that much money when we accept the mission. Which you'd know if you were an active bounty-hunter?