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Thread: so is getting Healing Efficancy Tapes and xx2x medic not viable now?

GirovDzatey
Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:18 pm
#1

should i even bother?





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rYsyn
Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:20 pm
#2






GirovDzatey wrote:

should i even bother?





Needs to be tested. Unclear if they are increasing the Advanced or decreasing the non-advanced at this point.



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MartianLaw
Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:22 pm
#3

Medic 0-0-1-0 +10 Healing Efficiency


Heightened Senses 3-0-0-0 +10 Healing Efficiency after the patch (same SP as the second box in Medic)


+25 Healing tapes/BE Clothing



Will still be useful.






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Grimjakk
Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:08 pm
#4






rYsyn wrote:






GirovDzatey wrote:

should i even bother?





Needs to be tested. Unclear if they are increasing the Advanced or decreasing the non-advanced at this point.






The dev posted that theyWEREnerfing the basic and improved versions... that they'd been incorrectly using the efficiency data for the advanced version.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=medic&message.id=14763#M14763


Apparently this has been a Top Issue on the Doc and CM boards for awhile, tho' I'm sure they were hoping the high end heals would go up.


I'm still waiting to see what the actual in-game heal numbers are.

Message Edited by Grimjakk on 07-26-2005 06:13 PM



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Jedi_Xan
Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:40 pm
#5






Grimjakk wrote:






rYsyn wrote:






GirovDzatey wrote:

should i even bother?





Needs to be tested. Unclear if they are increasing the Advanced or decreasing the non-advanced at this point.






The dev posted that theyWEREnerfing the basic and improved versions... that they'd been incorrectly using the efficiency data for the advanced version.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=medic&message.id=14763#M14763


Apparently this has been a Top Issue on the Doc and CM boards for awhile, tho' I'm sure they were hoping the high end heals would go up.


I'm still waiting to see what the actual in-game heal numbers are.


Message Edited by Grimjakk on 07-26-2005 06:13 PM




you may not heal for a full 1000, but with the tapes you probably will get 800 heal. That is 800 pts of damage every 5 sec. 800 x 12 sec + 1200 + 1200 with ruby = ALOT of damage healed.

Message Edited by Jedi_Xan on 07-26-2005 08:40 PM



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FaceInTheCrowd
Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:52 pm
#6






Grimjakk wrote:



I'm still waiting to see what the actual in-game heal numbers are.


Message Edited by Grimjakk on 07-26-2005 06:13 PM





Here's an actual in-game number for you then: 609. That's how much I can heal with medical support 3 on TC right now.




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Ssedi
Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:47 pm
#7

Which is a good think.

No reason someone with Medic 0020 should be healing that high, w/numbers close to a master doctor.



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VegitoSS
Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:45 pm
#8

I have 40 HE and medic 0020 and I heal for 1050 right now. I would hardly say thats uber healing. Lets compare...


Jedi 4000 healer 28 points used Infuse & 1500 heals every 6 sec

Medic 0020 20 points used with +25 HE 1050 every 5 sec.



Am I the only one who thinks this is screwed up and not fair to normal professions? Thats 8 more points used in healing trees more than someone with 0020 medic and they heal like master doctors. Now we are forced to take it up our stink hole because they want to nerf healing. Its already hard enough trying to outdamage a master defender and their god like healing ability. This really pisses me off.

Jedi_Xan
Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:57 pm
#9

The problem is neither side will quit screaming nerf. So the nerf war continues.



You know, this "fix" actually hurts the newbies the worst. This is a newb skill, and it got hurt bad.





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MithandirMajare
Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:01 pm
#10






VegitoSS wrote:

I have 40 HE and medic 0020 and I heal for 1050 right now. I would hardly say thats uber healing. Lets compare...


Jedi 4000 healer 28 points used Infuse & 1500 heals every 6 sec

Medic 0020 20 points used with +25 HE 1050 every 5 sec.



Am I the only one who thinks this is screwed up and not fair to normal professions? Thats 8 more points used in healing trees more than someone with 0020 medic and they heal like master doctors. Now we are forced to take it up our stink hole because they want to nerf healing. Its already hard enough trying to outdamage a master defender and their god like healing ability. This really pisses me off.






You said, with +25 healing efficiency. Jedis can wear bio clothes too. If they preffer padawan clothes, is not our problem. Padawan clothes dont have stats that give Jedi adventatge? Why ours cant have bio stats?


They dont get only 1500 heals every 6 secs. They get +725 force power max, +6 force power regeneration, Advanced Force Heal and Improved force Infusion. That meanstwo heals with 2 different recasts.Not bad for 8 skillpoints more....




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Hnglka
Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:14 pm
#11






MithandirMajare wrote:






VegitoSS wrote:

I have 40 HE and medic 0020 and I heal for 1050 right now. I would hardly say thats uber healing. Lets compare...


Jedi 4000 healer 28 points used Infuse & 1500 heals every 6 sec

Medic 0020 20 points used with +25 HE 1050 every 5 sec.



Am I the only one who thinks this is screwed up and not fair to normal professions? Thats 8 more points used in healing trees more than someone with 0020 medic and they heal like master doctors. Now we are forced to take it up our stink hole because they want to nerf healing. Its already hard enough trying to outdamage a master defender and their god like healing ability. This really pisses me off.






You said, with +25 healing efficiency. Jedis can wear bio clothes too. If they preffer padawan clothes, is not our problem. Padawan clothes dont have stats that give Jedi adventatge? Why ours cant have bio stats?


They dont get only 1500 heals every 6 secs. They get +725 force power max, +6 force power regeneration, Advanced Force Heal and Improved force Infusion. That meanstwo heals with 2 different recasts.Not bad for 8 skillpoints more....





HE mods do not apply to jedi heals they are fixed. Also my master doc toon can way outheal a Jedi, as will my CM when hes finished. Sorry guys but medic 0020 is a novice profession tier 2box. Healer4000 is a tier 4 elite profession box, there should be a difference.



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VegitoSS
Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:20 pm
#12








Hnglka wrote:





Ssedi wrote:
Which is a good think.

No reason someone with Medic 0020 should be healing that high, w/numbers close to a master doctor.




QFE. It is an inult to the MAster docs that ther was so little difference.






Your master doc can outheal a jedi yet you think a 1050 heal is little difference to a 3 heal type doc. Get real man you should freaking know better if you have a master doc. You just said you can out heal a jedi. You sure as hell cant outheal a jedi with 1050 heal.

Message Edited by VegitoSS on 07-27-2005 01:25 AM

Hnglka
Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:25 pm
#13






VegitoSS wrote:







Hnglka wrote:





Ssedi wrote:
Which is a good think.

No reason someone with Medic 0020 should be healing that high, w/numbers close to a master doctor.




QFE. It is an inult to the MAster docs that ther was so little difference.






Why dont you get a master doc and see what you heal for before posting this garbage. Just like the guy who posted above saying his doc can outheal jedi easy. If a 1050 heal with max BE clothing is little difference to a master doc, how can that guys master doc outheal a jedi infusion and 1500 heal? You are very confused if you think a master doc heals for 1050 with bacta shot. I have a master doc and its no were near what I can heal for with my master doc. SO QFE this... Master doc has 3 heals. Get yourself a master doc with max HE clothing and heal yourself. Saying a 1050 heal is little difference to master doc is an insult. Freaking NOOB's dont know what the hell they are talking about.

Message Edited by VegitoSS on 07-27-2005 01:22 AM




I am the guy in both cases and I do have a Master Doc. the bottom line is the devs mixed up the mods the medic heals were getting a higher mod than they deserved. live with it also My Doc can heal every 2 seconds. A jedi can heal only every 6 seconds. thats where the the outhealing comes into play. Forget about the BE clothing think about the base skills.



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