Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Why there will NEVER be the mass of Jedi you all fear.
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Bajonett
Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:08 am
#1
EXPERIENCE REQUIREMENTS !!!
I guess you can read the way in 2-3 months, yesa lot will dabble.
But to become the Master Jedi you all fear, one has to rip up
Milliards ofa combat-styleXP Class. All whilst BH, LD, and creastures
and other pick on them.
What happens on TC2 is testing with all Jedi who want, from all
Servers, its not the Life experience you get next week on the servers.
So im sure no mass jedi rundown on the whole game.
Maybe a lot FS-Enhanced Ones, but thats calculated.
Please calm down.
Oberathe
Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:11 am
#2
Nice theory, but it's wrong, IMO. The only hinderance to being a jedi is time.. that's it. So given enough time, anyone who wants to be a master Jedi will be. As long as Jedi are more powerful by design than any other class, there will be a lot of people who want it. What you're talking about will only slow the process down, it won't stop it.
Rarool
Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:12 am
#3
Hey what lives under a bridge and likes to playforcefully withit's tiny glowstick!!!!!
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piezo
Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:13 am
#4
Sorry, but there now WILL be that mass of jedi. Today's patch completely removed the death penalty for jedi.
DrkSensei
Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:16 am
#5
yep for those who didn't see the patch notes for today on test:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=in_testing&message.id=18301#M18301
Bajonett
Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:22 am
#6
Yes. a lot of people will TRY or go for it. but there are enough obstacles.
Dedicated ones will, Sure. Like mastering 32 Profs. But how many are that on each server?
Surely not the armies, the uninformed fear... The game will envolve on.
And why should Jedi get a death penalty? Do all other Profs get it? If so,
Jedi should have that too.
Jedi get only really better at PvP ranks. Why fear them? You see on T2
Masters at action and think everyone unlocking will be that?
Will a single Master dominate killing Bases? No.
For every Master is a Dark/Light counterpart, i guess its more like
Dark Jedi attacks with the Imps, but wil soon meet the Defenders light Jedi.
They will duke it out the same time the othersfight for the base.
As the Jedi at PvP rank need to fight constantly to keep their rank,
they will pretty much do their own war.
SabbathChild
Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:36 am
#7
They should have an xp penalty because Jedi are supposed to be rare. Most jedi and wannabe jedi seem to forget this point a lot. It's not supposed to be like the other professions in any way except for a skill tree system.
Another point you are forgetting: holoslaving is coming to an end. There will now be some kind of quest system. I don't care what the quests will consist of, within a few weeks after publish 10 there will be a guide on every professions forum on how to do the quests so you can unlock. But that aside I think just by walking into just about any cantina or medical center and counting all the afk people who are running a macro is a pretty good indication of how many are actually going for that coveted slot.
We don't think everyone will be at the level that masters are at on TC2. But with no way to control jedi, and jedi having nothing to fear from us, why do they get to stay at that kind of power level? I doubt they are going to leave in the no xp loss for pvp, but it's still kind of disturbing to even be seeing someting like that pop up.
Another point you are forgetting: holoslaving is coming to an end. There will now be some kind of quest system. I don't care what the quests will consist of, within a few weeks after publish 10 there will be a guide on every professions forum on how to do the quests so you can unlock. But that aside I think just by walking into just about any cantina or medical center and counting all the afk people who are running a macro is a pretty good indication of how many are actually going for that coveted slot.
We don't think everyone will be at the level that masters are at on TC2. But with no way to control jedi, and jedi having nothing to fear from us, why do they get to stay at that kind of power level? I doubt they are going to leave in the no xp loss for pvp, but it's still kind of disturbing to even be seeing someting like that pop up.
Mapai
Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:49 am
#8
I really hope that BH gets fixed before the Combat balance. BH was gimped before the jedi revamp, they are gimped after the jedi revamp. I watched a guardian make quick work of 3 BH attacking her, while she almost died toone fencer stacker. No one fears a BH anymore, I miss the days when BH was competive. ( I was master BH for several months, back on the old grind) As a Jedi now, I hope you guys get the attention you guys deserve quick.
Oberathe
Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:52 am
#9
Bajonett wrote:
Yes. a lot of people will TRY or go for it. but there are enough obstacles.
Obstacles? Like what?
Brodbane
Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:56 am
#10
Sabbath, I agree with you 100%. The fact they just enabled no exp loss whilst being killed in PVP is bull**edit**! What is there to discourage people from being a Jedi? Why tip the balance of risk vrs reward to ALL REWARD!??!?!?!?!?!? **edit** is going on here- Lets recap what just happened in the past few weeks
1) Jedi's are now UBER blockers
2) Jedi's will be a QUEST system ( 1 week before that hits the forums is DAMN RIGHT)
3) Jedi's suffer NO EXP loss in PVP (why should they even worry about BH's?)
4) Jedi's can REZ THEMSELVES (All knees shall bow)
5) Jedi's can nowscrew BH's any time they like with the new ability "/JediBackDoor <insertBHhere>" skill that will be released in PUB11 (oh wait, the Devs have being using the ability all long, my bad)
SamousNemo
Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:57 am
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It's just a matter of time man. Think fo when you first started this game. Did you look at some tree and think "DAMN thats a lot of xp, i'll never get that far" I know I sure as hell did when I looked at MBH. Now you yourself have unlocked 17 professions in just a few months I assume. And I imagine when I jedi is solo-ing rancors and etc on dathomir with buffs and friends, he's probably getting ass loads of xp anyhow.
As far as the whole TC updates, you guys sure this isn't jsut TC? They may be giving Jedi lots of power just to get more data or something... altho I wouldn't be surprised if it was going Live... Jedi is the newest and smallest profession in the game, yet has seen more attention and powerups than any other prof. Damn son, two patches devoted nearly entirely to jedi back to back? They could at least have put in the combat balance before hand so BH would stand a better chance at killing all the padawans before they go Knight. This is unfair to every other PAYING customer. Not everyone wants to play as a Jedi, but SOE sure acts like it. I jsut hope it doesn't chase away everyone else.
The quickest and easiest solution I see is to bring back permadeath. "*GASP*" you say. But it sure asheck would give Jedi something to worry about and would easily keep their numbers down, especially in PvP
SabbathChild
Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:12 am
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Plus, with Permadeath it would actually mean something to even make it onto a council. Sith would actually be dangerous as they have to PVP to rise in rank. Imagine the Sith Lord who died once to a BH early on and then a second death the first time he challenged for the the Lord position. But since then he's defeated everyone who has stepped up for the past month. Plus it just sounds like a much better story then the coddled Sith who afked levels while he was at school and hunted Rancors with 19 people from his guild when at home.
Aipoch
Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:13 am
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The way I see it is this. IF, and this is a big IF, they are smart then all this data they're collecting right now in regards to Jedi will hopefully be used to help us also.
I mean, its right there in front of them. TC2 is basically Jedi and MBH right now, correct? This gives them an opprotunity to actually see first hand how BH's stack up against jedi and what the pvp issues are.
Its one thing for them to have a "concept" of how the BH-Jedi game is and the "reality" of the situation is quite a different thing.
I'm trying to stay optomistic and hopefully this will open their eyes to the plight of the BH.
I mean, its right there in front of them. TC2 is basically Jedi and MBH right now, correct? This gives them an opprotunity to actually see first hand how BH's stack up against jedi and what the pvp issues are.
Its one thing for them to have a "concept" of how the BH-Jedi game is and the "reality" of the situation is quite a different thing.
I'm trying to stay optomistic and hopefully this will open their eyes to the plight of the BH.
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