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Thread: (TANKS) im banned from most citys
Eskie wrote:
Jedi_Xan wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
Jedi_Xan wrote:
For Crafter's to ban BH's for hunting Jedi is STUPID. That is millions and millions of credits lost. Talk about dumb. BH's are probably the biggest spenders on weapons and armor, food, spice, swoops, you name it. WHY in God's name would a crafter CHOOSE to ban the one's that quite frankly make or break his business.
Oh brother.
Not if that crafter is a Jedi alt.
My alt is a shipwright. I don't have a big problem selling to anyone, including a BH, because my product won't be directly used against me. Hence, I've never banned anyone for hunting me.
However, I can absolutely see a Jedi getting killed by a BH and banning them from their weaponsmith shop. Especially if they make good weapons. Why arm the schmoe who's trying to cause you exp loss?
Ok, so that 2.5 million credit rifle that you didnt sell went to a competitor, because you were mad you got beat by a bh. Ok, your loss.
Which in itself isnt a problem at all. But apparently the original poster made imperials as well as rebels mad, even when he was guilded with them, so now all the well-known shops are banning him. I dont think its a matter of him hunting Jedi, its more of a matter of him hunting Jedi his guild told him not to hunt.
Jedi_Xan wrote:
FernGully wrote:
Major difference you perhaps didn't consider:
- Killing a Jedi results in direct loss to the Jedi. Something you knew when you became a Jedi. It was not hidden from you. Yes, and the sky is blue. What's that got to do with anything?
- Being CityBan or banned from shop results in another player not being able to use MY STUFF. But will get sold by another vendor, hence credits away from you and into the hands of your competition. That is very bad business. If your weapons are so good as to kill your jedi, then maybe your skill is a conflict of interest.
I'll run my business and my city how I see fit, even if it costs me some business or some credits here and there. And I see fit to ban BHs.
Message Edited by Draxie on 07-29-2005 06:02 PM
Jedi_Xan wrote:
Eskie wrote:
Jedi_Xan wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
Jedi_Xan wrote:
For Crafter's to ban BH's for hunting Jedi is STUPID. That is millions and millions of credits lost. Talk about dumb. BH's are probably the biggest spenders on weapons and armor, food, spice, swoops, you name it. WHY in God's name would a crafter CHOOSE to ban the one's that quite frankly make or break his business.
Oh brother.
Not if that crafter is a Jedi alt.
My alt is a shipwright. I don't have a big problem selling to anyone, including a BH, because my product won't be directly used against me. Hence, I've never banned anyone for hunting me.
However, I can absolutely see a Jedi getting killed by a BH and banning them from their weaponsmith shop. Especially if they make good weapons. Why arm the schmoe who's trying to cause you exp loss?
Ok, so that 2.5 million credit rifle that you didnt sell went to a competitor, because you were mad you got beat by a bh. Ok, your loss.
Which in itself isnt a problem at all. But apparently the original poster made imperials as well as rebels mad, even when he was guilded with them, so now all the well-known shops are banning him. I dont think its a matter of him hunting Jedi, its more of a matter of him hunting Jedi his guild told him not to hunt.
well, I will create a character and buy the stuff for him. and if you ban that toon, then i will create another, and another, and another. He deserves to be able to spend his credits just like everyone else, and for you to ban him because he is a neutral bh is just bs.
I didnt ban him, he isnt even on my server. But judging from his post he probably didnt get banned for just being a BH, but for repeatedly hunting allies / friends of the guilds he was in at that time. If he did that with all major guilds on the server as he said he did, he will be banned from most shops because he didnt follow guild rules.
Jedi_Xan wrote:
Eskie wrote:
Jedi_Xan wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
Jedi_Xan wrote:
For Crafter's to ban BH's for hunting Jedi is STUPID. That is millions and millions of credits lost. Talk about dumb. BH's are probably the biggest spenders on weapons and armor, food, spice, swoops, you name it. WHY in God's name would a crafter CHOOSE to ban the one's that quite frankly make or break his business.
Oh brother.
Not if that crafter is a Jedi alt.
My alt is a shipwright. I don't have a big problem selling to anyone, including a BH, because my product won't be directly used against me. Hence, I've never banned anyone for hunting me.
However, I can absolutely see a Jedi getting killed by a BH and banning them from their weaponsmith shop. Especially if they make good weapons. Why arm the schmoe who's trying to cause you exp loss?
Ok, so that 2.5 million credit rifle that you didnt sell went to a competitor, because you were mad you got beat by a bh. Ok, your loss.
Which in itself isnt a problem at all. But apparently the original poster made imperials as well as rebels mad, even when he was guilded with them, so now all the well-known shops are banning him. I dont think its a matter of him hunting Jedi, its more of a matter of him hunting Jedi his guild told him not to hunt.
well, I will create a character and buy the stuff for him. and if you ban that toon, then i will create another, and another, and another. He deserves to be able to spend his credits just like everyone else, and for you to ban him because he is a neutral bh is just bs.
He has the right to spend his credits as he sees fit.
And I have the right to refuse to take them.
See how that whole personal rights thing works? I am entitled to MY stuff, and you're entitled to YOURS. You're not entitled to mine unless I permit you.
Jedi_Xan wrote:
no... that is not the grief.
The grief is the same as Jedi who claims that a BH hunts him over and over and over. To you, that is griefing. To me, when I see you ban a BH because he chose to play a BH (which, btw is exactly what you're doing so cut the crap) and killed your jedi friend, so you abused your power and banned him. That to me is also griefing a player, so who is right? You for abusing your power and banning him for being a BH. Or him for killing a Jedi which he has a mission on in a system implemented in this game that allows him to do so? Who is wrong?
This is a neutral BH, which means he is not subject to faction. As I understand it. Yet you ban him for doing what he does. That is griefing. I dont care how you candy coat it.
it doesnt matter why you get banned...intentions dont matter in this regard, just as you are not allowed to enter private structures, cities are player built, player maintained, and are in effect private...you can always travel through a playercity, but it is not your right to use any services whatsoever...you can have your ability to use player city services and vendors revokedat any time, those with the power to ban don't need a reason, but if you give them one, I'm sure you will get banned much more frequently, that is no abuse of power
in my city we ban anyone who is blue.....bh's, doctors, image designers, it doesnt matter, if your not part of the soloution, your part of the problem, and if a "friendly" attacks one of our residents, or is loitering for no reason, or is rude, he's getting banned to...it's not griefing, and for all intents and purposes, as far as your concerned, its just as if the player city services and vendors didnt exist in the first place, doesn't harm you in anyway whatsoever...so go on, get...this is a peaceful town and we don't like strangers round these parts, specially the likes of you and your kind...go on now, git!
Quiet420 wrote:
KOLBROOKIE wrote:
Ok this is the mess im in now on gorath most jedi have the best crafters on the server, of course...Jedi, in general, are the most dedicated players.
so to get the best weapons and armour you got to buy from them,but if you are banned from most citys and most jedi have the best crafters on the server, sounds like you should have spent a lil more time making friends then griefing people.
how can we as mbh get this good equipment, im not in a guild been kicked out of so many for hunting there jedi friends, if you've gotten to this point, you can't....this is a lesson you would do well to apply to any game world, even real life.
most crafter dont want to now me because ive killed there jedi or killed jedi they now , awww, im crying for you, seriously, whaaa
what can be done to help the most fear bh in the galaxy.guilds dont want to now me well the good ones dont cos i killed there poor jedi there is a difference between being feared, and being thought an idiot, after the first ban you could have wised up...but you didn't
now im being excluded from all good armour and weaponsmiths shops grats....end game condition, you beat SWG
ive been looking for 2 weeks 24 hours a day sucks when as the result of bh missions you have to spend hours and hours doing stupid, boring stuff, eh?
there is no bh guilds all jedi nowyou should have seen this coming a long time ago
can anyone help me delete your toon and start over from scratch...dont make the same mistakes twice
Yes, he should have seen this coming a long time ago. How dare he be something, anything except a Jedi. How dare he avail himself of some of the only decent content in the game. Yes, you're right... He should have learned his lesson a long time ago and just become a Jedi like everyone else. Then he wouldn't have to worry about bans like this, silly Bounty Hunter.
/sarcasm off
Ilpon, there must be a BH guild out there somewhere. I belong to one on Bloodfin, and we have experienced crafters that take care of these kinds of things so we don't have to worry about knee-jerk (with the emphasis on "jerk") reactions like this just because you happen to kill someone's friend and make the poor baby Jedi cry.
/applaud. An excellent solution. Except you need to find a smuggler you can trust.
Zutono wrote:
Wish I could've gotten into this thread earlier. Why not hire a SMUGGLER for an actual job? Get the smuggler to get the weapon crafted, and pay him upon completion. There are many ways around a simple shop-ban...stop thinking of the actions of these people as personal, and rather as an obstacle to roleplay around.
KOLBROOKIE wrote:
Ok this is the mess im in now on gorath most jedi have the best crafters on the server,
so to get the best weapons and armour you got to buy from them,but if you are banned from most citys and most jedi have the best crafters on the server,
how can we as mbh get this good equipment, im not in a guild been kicked out of so many for hunting there jedi friends,
most crafter dont want to now me because ive killed there jedi or killed jedi they now ,
what can be done to help the most fear bh in the galaxy.guilds dont want to now me well the good ones dont cos i killed there poor jedi
now im being excluded from all good armour and weaponsmiths shops
ive been looking for 2 weeks 24 hours a day
there is no bh guilds all jedi now
can anyone help me
player city ban is so pathetic,i reallywish they would remove it from the game
HoopyFr00d wrote:
Quiet420 wrote:
KOLBROOKIE wrote:
Ok this is the mess im in now on gorath most jedi have the best crafters on the server, of course...Jedi, in general, are the most dedicated players.
so to get the best weapons and armour you got to buy from them,but if you are banned from most citys and most jedi have the best crafters on the server, sounds like you should have spent a lil more time making friends then griefing people.
how can we as mbh get this good equipment, im not in a guild been kicked out of so many for hunting there jedi friends, if you've gotten to this point, you can't....this is a lesson you would do well to apply to any game world, even real life.
most crafter dont want to now me because ive killed there jedi or killed jedi they now , awww, im crying for you, seriously, whaaa
what can be done to help the most fear bh in the galaxy.guilds dont want to now me well the good ones dont cos i killed there poor jedi there is a difference between being feared, and being thought an idiot, after the first ban you could have wised up...but you didn't
now im being excluded from all good armour and weaponsmiths shops grats....end game condition, you beat SWG
ive been looking for 2 weeks 24 hours a day sucks when as the result of bh missions you have to spend hours and hours doing stupid, boring stuff, eh?
there is no bh guilds all jedi nowyou should have seen this coming a long time ago
can anyone help me delete your toon and start over from scratch...dont make the same mistakes twice
Yes, he should have seen this coming a long time ago. How dare he be something, anything except a Jedi. How dare he avail himself of some of the only decent content in the game. Yes, you're right... He should have learned his lesson a long time ago and just become a Jedi like everyone else. Then he wouldn't have to worry about bans like this, silly Bounty Hunter.
/sarcasm off
Ilpon, there must be a BH guild out there somewhere. I belong to one on Bloodfin, and we have experienced crafters that take care of these kinds of things so we don't have to worry about knee-jerk (with the emphasis on "jerk") reactions like this just because you happen to kill someone's friend and make the poor baby Jedi cry.
That's not accurate at all. The only character I've been city banned from was my BH. And that was without a "Hi, how ya doin', who you huntin'". Same faction. Literally AS I shuttled into the town. I didn't even see the message because I hadn't loaded yet.
That earned a big fat "So"?
An as to the last, all I see in this thread are BH-tears.
yeah yeah, not reading 4 pages here's my take:
So what they banned you, jsut drive to the city. if banned from individual shops you are doing SOMETHING to warrant the attention. I kill all the time on gorath, and i do get citybanned...
however...here's the thing...i don't take the hunt personal..but once i'm banned i then light up when i get that guild's jedi again sometime because i know it actually makes them mad and they are going to some extra effort to cause me trouble by banning me. So it just makes me WANT to hunt their jedi more.
Come to Dohrian, Talus on gorath, we never ban for hunting jedi. We have a 12 pt WS, solid armorsmith, and everything else under the sun.
Darkvenegence wrote:
KOLBROOKIE wrote:
Ok this is the mess im in now on gorath most jedi have the best crafters on the server,
so to get the best weapons and armour you got to buy from them,but if you are banned from most citys and most jedi have the best crafters on the server,
how can we as mbh get this good equipment, im not in a guild been kicked out of so many for hunting there jedi friends,
most crafter dont want to now me because ive killed there jedi or killed jedi they now ,
what can be done to help the most fear bh in the galaxy.guilds dont want to now me well the good ones dont cos i killed there poor jedi
now im being excluded from all good armour and weaponsmiths shops
ive been looking for 2 weeks 24 hours a day
there is no bh guilds all jedi now
can anyone help me
player city ban is so pathetic,i reallywish they would remove it from the game
im with ya.... kinda like the votekick options on some fps's. it is so misused it is pathetic.