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Thread: Publish 20 Feedback

Jargal
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:24 pm
#53

This publ 20 is a joke i really hope.


Otherwise it will force all MBHs to have the same Mrifleman/CM templats in order to kill the full temps. There will be no way to be a MBH Carb or pistols anymore...the terms got about 60% of those 225-226k jedis when i checked earlier this morning. And the amount of full temps will grown since they want vis to give them content. While the paddies can stay hidden in no-vis groups.


At least we need info about the jediskills the marks got. I miss any real investigation tools. You cant sneak up and do any recon unless you got /cover rifleman skill. There should be something in the investigation tree that revelas the jedi skills, so there can be diffrent kinds of MBHs. Im one of those who likes to keep my carbines and RIS armor with ADKs. I dont want to change to rifleman cause of this paublish.Noone likes to be forced to change temps to something you dont like...


Maybe it's better to quit? I'm sure many will since we are getting feeded with the jedi-wish list stuff like this.


Noone even asks us BHs what we want to see ingame...





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Cada_Kai
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:24 pm
#54






AllHandlestaken wrote:
Now Cloak is different from pre20....you could always /target them and throw DOTs...now you cannot target..bid difference!






so you could target them. you couldnt shoot them, all you could do would be to follow them to their house.


What is so different ?


You still cant attack them. When they cloak the fight is over.





Cada Kai Jedi Padawan

Iak Adac Jedi Hunter

"I couldn't be more bugged if my name was Buggy McBuggyPants." -FunkyZabrak

seshem
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:25 pm
#55

Template MR/MBH/CM4000


Took 3 missions today only got the name for 1 none of them were on KASH but all of them were full temps. all three had preCU light sabers and they sliced my ass to peices. i got knocked down but could not get back up even spamming knockdown recovery. i dont want to take pistols as i freking hate pistols. can anyone suggest what i can do to to like not die in the first 30 secs of combat from a full temp. this is starting to frustrate me as i have been able to take 180-190k jedi and had good fights takes a few min but i could hold my own. but these guys were hitting me for over 1k and i was hitting him for max 500 and i have a really good rifle. ANy help would be appreciated




BENZO non-respec MBH


aekeem
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:27 pm
#56






Cada_Kai wrote:


this skill is working exactly as it did pre oub 20.




here's a clue.


no its not. do you enjoy just posting the first thing that comes to your mind regardless of whether or not it has any logical basis?


aekeem
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:30 pm
#57

another issue is i thought we were supposed to get a bonus based on the amount of visibility the jedi had. i just killed one who would have been worth 221k yesterday and he was only worth 221k today, despite the fact i found him in bestine, surrounded by people and fighting. should this not have given him the "extra vis" the devs were talking about? or did they just say we'd get a bonus so they could hide the value of the jedi?
Cada_Kai
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:31 pm
#58






aekeem wrote:





Cada_Kai wrote:


this skill is working exactly as it did pre oub 20.




here's a clue.


no its not. do you enjoy just posting the first thing that comes to your mind regardless of whether or not it has any logical basis?








could you attack the Cloaked Jedi before?


Can you attack the cloaked Jedi now?


What good does targeting them do if you cannot hit them?





Cada Kai Jedi Padawan

Iak Adac Jedi Hunter

"I couldn't be more bugged if my name was Buggy McBuggyPants." -FunkyZabrak

TrebuhAragorn
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:32 pm
#59

yeah, pub20 is great. makes lot more fun to be bounty hunter than before...


äääh, forgotten to say i canceled my account because of pub20


have fun ladies.



Master Bounty Hunter since Oct 2004

Chief of Bad -Bow and Die-

-Jedi Hunters-

Wraith51180
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:32 pm
#60






Wraith51180 wrote:






Corvett wrote:






TardWrangler wrote:
Ok you tell me what self respecting bounty hunter is going to take a mission without knowing who they are going to hunt much less not even know how much they are going to get paid. This new system is a fuggin joke. Did SOE ever bother to get feedback from real bounty hunters? Jedi with a BH alt to hold their mission doesn't count. This Pub20 is lame and make no sense what so ever.





Sounds like someone is mad cause they can't pick on noobs anymore.








So explain to me the role of bounty hunter now in this game? Just and npc hunter...or are we supposed to go after player charecters. To me that sounds much more interesting than hunting npcs who are ai and not as adept atchanging with the situation. So nowwhen wesee a jedi force middle fingering and showing off in starports or deuling there buddy jedi in starports we cant just stoll to the bh terminal pick there name and clobber them for being the a hole jedi. So what are we supposed to do now take a bounty you think might pay 220k if it is a jedi worthy, look with our seekers for 15 mins then get the name after you know who it is they deul check you to see if you are a bh then they logg out casue that immediatly drops your mission. THen they logg back in and every thing is normal again, like they never left. The ods of pulling the same jedi formthe terminals is astronomical. How is this good for any profession including jedi who know they are taking advantage of something in their favor. which is fine but this is out of hand. Cant we get the saber tef back please!!!!!!!!!!! That would be balance then everyone can punish jedi like it should be not just bh but anyone who roleplays the game and understands Jedi should be hideing. I can deal with all the other things but names not on the terminals man that has to be wrong, I say if your not activly seekng a target that you took form the terminals it is reported to the bh guild and your banned from the player bounties untill you sucessfully complete 4 high level npc missons. That alone should stop bh jedi friends from sheilding the jedi from the real BH's. I stuck it out this long as bh I keep going but man some thign has to be done rationally about all profession not just what ever sells lunch boxes. As for the paddies if after you die you loss xp is gained back in groups now so you wont make the terminals unless you show off in starport right?









aekeem
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:36 pm
#61






Cada_Kai wrote:





aekeem wrote:





Cada_Kai wrote:


this skill is working exactly as it did pre oub 20.




here's a clue.


no its not. do you enjoy just posting the first thing that comes to your mind regardless of whether or not it has any logical basis?








could you attack the Cloaked Jedi before?


Can you attack the cloaked Jedi now?


What good does targeting them do if you cannot hit them?







you can follow them, or track where they are going, or you can leave your target macro running when they cloak so you know when they come back to attack you, lots of things most bh's would understand. you keep saying you're a bh but you obviously have no clue.........
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:37 pm
#62






AllHandlestaken wrote:
Now Cloak is different from pre20....you could always /target them and throw DOTs...now you cannot target..bid difference!





Yah. They closed off an exploit. That is a big difference.



Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
aekeem
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:41 pm
#63






Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:





AllHandlestaken wrote:
Now Cloak is different from pre20....you could always /target them and throw DOTs...now you cannot target..bid difference!





Yah. They closed off an exploit. That is a big difference.





yes, throwing dots on them while cloaked needed to be fixed, but the ability to target them while cloaked was awful useful. strange how fixing a bug that negatively affected jedi got fixed asap, but the vast number that positively affect jedi still remain.
Ycy
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:42 pm
#64

I have some mixed feelings about publish 20 as does everyone else. To sum it up I really don't like the changes, I've spent only about 8 hours today tracking down Jedi. One was a full template ex-knight with a 45k mission payout (about a 55 minute fight that I lost in the end to),one was grinding on kashyyyk (found him on my last sweep through), and the last one I just got was the same guy on Kashyyyk grinding.I wrote down the mission payout exactly, to see if it happens again.


I'm not an old school BH, so to some this may seem like I'm whining. I don't mind that label in this case. Without knowing who your mark is, you have a large potential forwasting 10 to 20 minutes per mark you get. Reason being, you aren't sure if your mark is active. I was only able to engage 3 out of the 15 marks I investigated today. This might change with time, some days you could get lucky and get a few more or less.


About 4 times I got the "target is not online" message - when I had only held the mission for 20 seconds or so while transiting to the informant.


6 timesI didn't get the name response (maybe I wasn't close enough? I was anywhere form 3-4k away).


8 times my mark was inside a house for atleast 30 minutes.


And once, I got the same mark twice even after killing him, maybe an hour later.


Kashyyyk being a "safe haven" for Jedi to grind is fine with me really. As long as there are steps taken to improve the MBH vs Full template Jedi encounter. MCM should not be required forme togo toe to toewith full template and have a snowballs chance, being an MBH with a good secondary mastery (with associated weapon of choice) and healing should do that. I don't mind coming up with 100 million credits worth of gear, but let's even up the odds a little if we're going to leave the paddies on kashyyyk grinding to full temp without a remote chanceof a BH attack.


So I'm sitting here, for the last time today waiting for my mark to come out of his house (I'm a ways away so I'm not sure if it's a house or guildhall), don't know their name, and I can't help but think that if I cancel this mission I will somehow be hunted by another MBH.


One thing that has been achieved here is no immediate risk for Jedi flashing their saber around like it was going out of style. Does it really matter? Nah not really - but then again, full templates aren't really affraid of anything ~



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Cada_Kai
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:44 pm
#65






aekeem wrote:





Cada_Kai wrote:





aekeem wrote:





Cada_Kai wrote:


this skill is working exactly as it did pre oub 20.




here's a clue.


no its not. do you enjoy just posting the first thing that comes to your mind regardless of whether or not it has any logical basis?








could you attack the Cloaked Jedi before?


Can you attack the cloaked Jedi now?


What good does targeting them do if you cannot hit them?







you can follow them, or track where they are going, or you can leave your target macro running when they cloak so you know when they come back to attack you, lots of things most bh's would understand. you keep saying you're a bh but you obviously have no clue.........






you keep stating you are shredding my arguments. I have yet to see you shred anything.


All you have done it throw out the status quo argument over and over.


I've been a MBH since a month after launch thank you. Things are much easier now for BHs then they ever have been.


So you can follow him around big deal. Most jedi cloak then go to their homes.


I leveled with quite a few Jedi, I know quite a few Jedi as the guild I am in is primarily Jedi.


I know how it is leveled. I know how the system to trick BHs works.


You are going off of your limited experience in the matter to form an argument based on one blank statement.


you are the one who keeps saying I am the uber master. I have never once proclaimed myself to be the best gamer.




Cada Kai Jedi Padawan

Iak Adac Jedi Hunter

"I couldn't be more bugged if my name was Buggy McBuggyPants." -FunkyZabrak

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