Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: (TANKS) im banned from most citys
Jedi_Xan wrote:
I think it is abuse of power. A jedi gets killed, gets mad, has the power to ban, and uses it as a tool for revenge. That is what it boils down to.
Power over their own structures, their own vendors?
These are PLAYER CITIES. I bought, own, and pay maintenance on that Shuttleport. I'll let whoever I want use it. Same with my houses, same with my vendors. No one is entitled to use them but me and whoever I feel like allowing to use it. Heck, I don't need a reason, much less a good one, to ban someone. I'll ban ya if I think your character's name is stupid.
My city. My shop.
Jedi_Xan wrote:
FernGully wrote:
The purpose of the cityban feature is for a mayor or militia member to protect the citizens of town. If those citizens include people who happen to be Jedi, and you are a known Bounty Hunter, its reasonable to assume that you'll eventually make it onto the city's ban list. Who else do Jedi need protection from? Bounty hunters, of course! This is common sense, and using a game feature exactly how it was intended to be used. If this is "griefing", then Jedi Bounty missions are most certainly "griefing". The excuse of "I was just doing my job!" works just as well for me when my job as mayor is to protect my citizens and uphold alliances with other guilds/cities.
If you can't deal with this, you've should've chosen to stick with NPC missions, and left Player missions alone. Killing another player, especially when their death at their hands costs them time and XP, will have consequences. To not expect that you will eventually become a pariah on your server for having executed every Jedi you could, to not be prepared for the poor reputation you'd receive, is just really naive and short-sighted on your part. Maybe you really didn't see this coming? For that, I sorta pity you. But not nearly enough to unban you from my city or my shops. You've made your bed in the community, and now its time to lie in it with whatever weaps and armor you can find on the bazaar.
And if you're an RPer, you'd not really be complaining about any of this. An RPer looking to protray a feared Bounty Hunter would EXPECT to be loathed and shunned by the rest of the player base. "Bounty Hunters. We don't need their scum."
Maybe this is something the devs can move to rectify. It is griefing a player because he chooses to be a bounty hunter. I think your griefing, and I will report you.
Have fun with that. Lemme know how it works out for you.
Berdelsan wrote:
Our profession is about causing harm, i do what my profession allows me to do. Thats my job. Im doing nothing wrong, im just playing my professions like its supposed to be. But not all people see it that way and the system allows them to grief us for whatever reason they have.
I think its wrong.. Perhaps you should be banned from every city for being "template pending"? hehe
No seriously, no other profession gets banned for being what they are. BH should not be banned from a city for being BH and hunt jedi just as chef should not be banned for making food
Message Edited by Berdelsan on 07-29-2005 01:25 PM
All actions have consequences. If the consequences of your actions are too difficult to live with, take up Dancer.
Quiet420 wrote:
go ahead and report : "omg tehy banned me just for killing city residents...its not fair, its my job...just because they don't want me in their player created city or buying their goods doesnt mean I shouldnt be able to use the city services or buy goods omg omg omg, do they think they own that player created city?...omg its not fair"
Jedi_Xan wrote:
Maybe this is something the devs can move to rectify. It is griefing a player because he chooses to be a bounty hunter. I think your griefing, and I will report you.
after the CSR gets done laughing they will give you a "Working as intended."
no... that is not the grief.
The grief is the same as Jedi who claims that a BH hunts him over and over and over. To you, that is griefing. To me, when I see you ban a BH because he chose to play a BH (which, btw is exactly what you're doing so cut the crap) and killed your jedi friend, so you abused your power and banned him. That to me is also griefing a player, so who is right? You for abusing your power and banning him for being a BH. Or him for killing a Jedi which he has a mission on in a system implemented in this game that allows him to do so? Who is wrong?
This is a neutral BH, which means he is not subject to faction. As I understand it. Yet you ban him for doing what he does. That is griefing. I dont care how you candy coat it.
Jedi_Xan wrote:
Quiet420 wrote:
go ahead and report : "omg tehy banned me just for killing city residents...its not fair, its my job...just because they don't want me in their player created city or buying their goods doesnt mean I shouldnt be able to use the city services or buy goods omg omg omg, do they think they own that player created city?...omg its not fair"
Jedi_Xan wrote:
Maybe this is something the devs can move to rectify. It is griefing a player because he chooses to be a bounty hunter. I think your griefing, and I will report you.
after the CSR gets done laughing they will give you a "Working as intended."
no... that is not the grief.The grief is the same as Jedi who claims that a BH hunts him over and over and over. To you, that is griefing. To me, when I see you ban a BH because he chose to play a BH (which, btw is exactly what you're doing so cut the crap) and killed your jedi friend, so you abused your power and banned him. That to me is also griefing a player, so who is right? You for abusing your power and banning him for being a BH. Or him for killing a Jedi which he has a mission on in a system implemented in this game that allows him to do so? Who is wrong?
This is a neutral BH, which means he is not subject to faction. As I understand it. Yet you ban him for doing what he does. That is griefing. I dont care how you candy coat it.
Major difference you perhaps didn't consider:
- Killing a Jedi results in direct loss to the Jedi.
- Being CityBan or banned from shop results in another player not being able to use MY STUFF.
What server you on? I need to come to it and create a character, then you need to give me all your equipment. If you don't, I'm gonna report you for griefing.
Message Edited by FernGully on 07-29-2005 11:52 AM
Jedi_Xan wrote:
For Crafter's to ban BH's for hunting Jedi is STUPID. Thatis millions and millions of credits lost. Talk about dumb. BH's are probably the biggest spenders on weapons and armor, food, spice, swoops, you name it. WHY in God's name would a crafter CHOOSE to ban the one's that quite frankly make or break his business.
Oh brother.
Not if that crafter is a Jedi alt.
My alt is a shipwright. I don't have a big problem selling to anyone, including a BH, because my product won't be directly used against me. Hence, I've never banned anyone for hunting me.
However, I can absolutely see a Jedi getting killed by a BH and banning them from their weaponsmith shop. Especially if they make good weapons. Why arm the schmoe who's trying to cause you exp loss?
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
Jedi_Xan wrote:
For Crafter's to ban BH's for hunting Jedi is STUPID. Thatis millions and millions of credits lost. Talk about dumb. BH's are probably the biggest spenders on weapons and armor, food, spice, swoops, you name it. WHY in God's name would a crafter CHOOSE to ban the one's that quite frankly make or break his business.
Oh brother.
Not if that crafter is a Jedi alt.
My alt is a shipwright. I don't have a big problem selling to anyone, including a BH, because my product won't be directly used against me. Hence, I've never banned anyone for hunting me.
However, I can absolutely see a Jedi getting killed by a BH and banning them from their weaponsmith shop. Especially if they make good weapons. Why arm the schmoe who's trying to cause you exp loss?
Ok, so that 2.5 million credit rifle that you didnt sell went to a competitor, because you were mad you got beat by a bh. Ok, your loss.
Jedi_Xan wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
Jedi_Xan wrote:
For Crafter's to ban BH's for hunting Jedi is STUPID. Thatis millions and millions of credits lost. Talk about dumb. BH's are probably the biggest spenders on weapons and armor, food, spice, swoops, you name it. WHY in God's name would a crafter CHOOSE to ban the one's that quite frankly make or break his business.
Oh brother.
Not if that crafter is a Jedi alt.
My alt is a shipwright. I don't have a big problem selling to anyone, including a BH, because my product won't be directly used against me. Hence, I've never banned anyone for hunting me.
However, I can absolutely see a Jedi getting killed by a BH and banning them from their weaponsmith shop. Especially if they make good weapons. Why arm the schmoe who's trying to cause you exp loss?
Ok, so that 2.5 million credit rifle that you didnt sell went to a competitor, because you were mad you got beat by a bh. Ok, your loss.
No. Not a competitor. Someone who is trying/has tried to kill me. HUGE difference.
FernGully wrote:
Major difference you perhaps didn't consider:
- Killing a Jedi results in direct loss to the Jedi. Something you knew when you became a Jedi. It was not hidden from you.
- Being CityBan or banned from shop results in another player not being able to use MY STUFF. But will get sold by another vendor, hence credits away from you and into the hands of your competition. That is very bad business. If your weapons are so good as to kill your jedi, then maybe your skill is a conflict of interest.
Jedi_Xan wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
Jedi_Xan wrote:
For Crafter's to ban BH's for hunting Jedi is STUPID. That is millions and millions of credits lost. Talk about dumb. BH's are probably the biggest spenders on weapons and armor, food, spice, swoops, you name it. WHY in God's name would a crafter CHOOSE to ban the one's that quite frankly make or break his business.
Oh brother.
Not if that crafter is a Jedi alt.
My alt is a shipwright. I don't have a big problem selling to anyone, including a BH, because my product won't be directly used against me. Hence, I've never banned anyone for hunting me.
However, I can absolutely see a Jedi getting killed by a BH and banning them from their weaponsmith shop. Especially if they make good weapons. Why arm the schmoe who's trying to cause you exp loss?
Ok, so that 2.5 million credit rifle that you didnt sell went to a competitor, because you were mad you got beat by a bh. Ok, your loss.
Which in itself isnt a problem at all. But apparently the original poster made imperials as well as rebels mad, even when he was guilded with them, so now all the well-known shops are banning him. I dont think its a matter of him hunting Jedi, its more of a matter of him hunting Jedi his guild told him not to hunt.
KOLBROOKIE wrote:
im not in a guild been kicked out of so many for hunting there jedi friends,
This is a VERY telling point.
Indiscriminate, random, running around and killing people and their friends isn't going to make you any friends. If this person can't control themselves to the point of not killing their guildmate's FRIENDS, they don't deserve a place in civilization.
Jedi_Xan wrote:
FernGully wrote:
Major difference you perhaps didn't consider:
- Killing a Jedi results in direct loss to the Jedi. Something you knew when you became a Jedi. It was not hidden from you.
- Being CityBan or banned from shop results in another player not being able to use MY STUFF. But will get sold by another vendor, hence credits away from you and into the hands of your competition. That is very bad business. If your weapons are so good as to kill your jedi, then maybe your skill is a conflict of interest.
And if a person wants to cripple their OWN business by banning customers, how is that an abuse?