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they threw the dog a 'bone'

"You're actually going to wear your BH armor? It's going to have energy resists so low it'll be useless for hunting Jedi with."

Not if it's crafted with an energy layer, might be possible to get that energy layer up past 6K.

I found it odd how quickly Blixtev changed something within a couple days because of something that has sort of been an issue for a very long time, but as always the communication between the devs and playerbase is one of the worst out of most other game companies out there. Heck I even think the communication within the dev team is below par (there was a dev specializing in the Jedi department over a year ago that didn't help the other devs), like how Tiggs' final word is usually different from a dev that comes in the forum to clarify the notes or help us understand more of what the patch note or what Tigss says means.

part of the problem is they've said they don't take their advise from the petitions and forum posts.. granted they read them, however the issues that have been cried about here and passed were also very large issues on TC, and when they got tons of requests through the proper channels. Again it's not uncommon to see devs mingling about on TC, even joining groups, asking players to duel, asking to see our weapons/armor etc. (witnessed a dev gasp when he realized a 2xxx cm was healing like a mcm during a duel, was with another group of ours when one said "that isn't right" when one player took down a krayt and he saw it) Problems have been tho that there's never really that many jedi and bh on the TC except for prime, but I still can't see how it went this long before being tweaked tho, give yall that...

I like the idea of boss boutnies too cuz of the cool loot we will be getting. I am worried about the jedi starting to whine and complain cuz the loot wie will be getting and that they are not getting it. They will say its unfair that one prof is only allowed to get this loot blah blah and it will be taken away from us in publish 22. I plan to stock up on as many jedi tapes i can find on boss missions and put them on my vendors for 99999999999 and not let any jedi have them

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Vcardossk wrote:

Seems kinda silly when every other prof in the game is aching for any tiny bit more content and finally a prof gets some content they snap and bite at it like it's a bad thing.

I'm sure if you guys don't like the content the jedi would take some instead/tease

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Got to complain about something I guess.

Frankly, I thnk because it is being looked at as a "bone" for getting screwed over with respect the the Jedi missions mostly being unacheivable without a great deal of luck. Of all the post I've seen about people killing Jedi, the marjority of them are bragging about killing a AFK jedi. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but there isn't much skill involved.

As a result, many bounty hunters feel that they had a significant amount of content taken away by constantly reducing the VIS rules (decreases the probably of a non-templated Jedi getting on the terminal) and unwillingness to balance Jedi with a full template (maintaining the 1.5X + power).

Content is effectively removed because the BH / Jedi missions are, for the most part, BH verse 1.5x Jedi. Some may consider that "fun" in having a 10 - 15% chane of winning and spending time just sitting around waiting for the "right" AFK time to strike, but very few do. Maybe that is what is needed, don't know and don't care.

But, those that are not happy with that are looking at the NPC things as a paper tiger bone being tossed our way just to say they did something. In addition, stack on thatthe pure shock that 2 years into the game and it is the first time any Developer has run a BH mission to realize how easy and boring they are inspite of 2 years of complaining about it. That is just frustrating

I, for one, LOVE the upcoming change and look forward to running the missions! Much more fun them any Jedi Mission if you ask me. I applaud Blixtex for his work and effort in improving this much needed aspect of gameplay!

Message Edited by rYsyn on 08-02-2005 01:53 PM

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Actairr wrote:

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rob0t wrote:

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You guys are way too hyped up over the potential profit that you're NOT going to make.

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How can you say this? You have played the game for 3 months, I have played for 2 years. TRUST me there will be profit to be had. Everyone and their mother was able to kill the acklay and get acklay bones, same for krayt pearls and tissue but they still sell for a nice chunk of cash. You really don't know what you are talking about.

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/raise

this robot guy is a noob

ive been playing this game since beta and this game needs some type of loot other then stupid decorations and such...wow "looting AA's/CA's will ruin the BH proffession"

dude look at all the rich jedi there are because of them exploiting the dath prison missions....few were banned but MANY kept doing it not caring about getting banned ....they wanted loot. people bought the AA/CAs no matter what the price on my server.

that tells you that people in this game really want something worth looting. the devs are trying to impliment good loot into the game and you complain? lol you're an idiot.

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Actairr wrote:


But PC bounties are not being phased out. Its not like they said you have to kill an npc mark and get good cookie points that can be turned in for a chance to hunt PCs.

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I think anyone who has played any classis MMO (meaning, anything older than this game) knows that changes like these, with drastic changes in the past, will lead to drastics changes in the future. Jedi were intended to be very rare. Jedi were rare. Theythen told everyonethe path to get to Jedi. Then, they gave people holocrons to get the exact professions (not all, but most) to get to Jedi. Now that half the population were Jedi, they took out perma-death (I shivered when they did this!) Then, they implemented the village, making Jedi a structured and simple grind, no worse than grinding master entertainer, just longer.

And yet, across the gulf of space (some people must get that one insider) Jedi still complained, as when they were killed, they lost XP. So, for a time since the TTE, the developers have completely ignored the grinding spot of the majority of the Jedi. A spot where droids don't work, and it's more efficient to hunt kreetles for their meat to sell on the bazaarthan search every instance for them, hoping they don't play the "log off 5 minutes every hour" trick (read the Jedi boards) or exploit a LOS bug.

And here we are, yet again, diverting attention away from Jedi bounties. Yet again, less hunting of Jedi will take place. The next step? Remove Jedi bounties! Who will complain? The Jedi will say "Well, you have uber loot from your NPC bounties," and they'll be right. Our role will have shifted. The new Jedi coming in will say "our role is to be uber," and the new BHs coming in will say "it's our job to hunt rares like rangers with P-darts on Krayts."

Removing perma-death was the worse mistake this company made, and removing PC bounties will be a huge nail in its coffin. I'm not a doom-sayer. The game WILL go on. But, it's summer time, and this game's number are down by roughly 50,000 over the course of the last 4 months? Why? Shouldn't the kids be home playing these games? Why doFFXI, WoW, and Lineage soar, while SW:G is left in the dust? The kids have grinded their Jedi and are bored. Plain and simple. This is the first time since the game has launches that the numbers are at an all-time low, WHILE the kiddies are out of school, AND after a major expansion!

(Stats taken from http://mmogchart.com/, don't even bother using chart 1 where the "big boys are," use chart 2 where all the "down and out" MMOs are)

Even ToonTown Online (Chart 3) is holding steady!!!

Yes, they're heading towards removing player bounties.

As a guy who has lived though the destruction (but continuation) of just about every MMO on the market (/shivers about UO) since the first line of non-mud, Meridian 59, developers coddle the whiners, lose their vets, and the player-base goes down the crapper. Look at ANY U.S. game and watch that trend. Even Everquest is a FLYSPEC now (even though they're going up in numbers) compared to the Japanese market and WoW.

Mark my words - bookmark this thread if you wish - Jedi bounties will be removed, or the penatly of death for the Jedi will be. They WILL coddle the Jedi.

(* Promoted of a Jedi-free server here! *)

There might be alot of BH still but they are NOT hunting jedi. Kaadara is empty....in fact last night there 3 jedi in Kaadara and I was the only BH.

You said it Resta, those +25 CA/AA's looted by Jedi was getting out of hand when the farming level 268-280 DJK/DJMs day in and day out got ridiculous. I tried it once and got a freakin 102 strength action woundpack that I wipe my butt with now.

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Vcardossk wrote:

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Talset11 wrote:

As for how long it took them to fix it. Who the hell cares it was fixed. Christ was it supposed to stay broken forever?

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QFE

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ok you guys need to learn how to actually read and comprehend someone's statement. you guys keep missing the point i'm making, i'm not complaining about how long it took, how many times can i say this and have it just bounce off your thick skulls? the issue is that blixtev CLAIMED TO HAVE NO IDEA THAT NPC BOUNTIES SUCKED, something that the community had attempted to communicate through all possible channels to the proper people. after nearly 2 years he posted that NONE OF IT HAD GOTTEN THROUGH TO HIM, many people felt very disappointed at the lack of communication. i'm sorry i can't communicate these ideas in a more simple manner but i seriously doubt i could get through to you guys anyways.

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SpunkyKuma wrote:
I found it odd how quickly Blixtev changed something within a couple days because of something that has sort of been an issue for a very long time, but as always the communication between the devs and playerbase is one of the worst out of most other game companies out there. Heck I even think the communication within the dev team is below par (there was a dev specializing in the Jedi department over a year ago that didn't help the other devs), like how Tiggs' final word is usually different from a dev that comes in the forum to clarify the notes or help us understand more of what the patch note or what Tigss says means.

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at least someone understands the problem here, CRAPPY COMMUNICATION, that is what i am complaining about, publish 21 just shines a big spotlight on the complete lack of communication between the development team and the playerbase.