Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: BH TEF AND CLOAKING
Arcadias
Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:34 am
#40
Rukahs wrote:
I'm a Lvl 74 Bh and Went after my mark , all was going good till his force runs out , so he cloaks mid battle and meditats right in front of me regens and his doc friend rebuffs him , then he uncloaks and we go at it again same thing he runs off cloaks and regens mid battle , and then does it a third time this battle lasted about 45 mins cause he was a wuss and would run off cloak and heal,
First Off BH TEF Should be no cloaking durning the fight , if they cant get in a house why be able to cloak
Second Off The Doc healing him causehis tef ran off cause he was cloaked so long
Yes I died cause i couldnt run off and hide , and yes lvl 74 vs 80 i should have died
What do you true bh think
Why punish everyone because someone used bugs? Fix the bugs!
- You cannot cloak and meditate. You can only meditate and cloak. (in that order). But you need to be out of combat to meditate as well.
- The buffing friend... did he wait 2.5 mins before he buffed? He shouldnt be able to do that before the TEF drops. And he used a bug to buff him while cloaked.
Just report both of them and leave cloak alone.
Corvett
Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:37 am
#41
KaharTheMad wrote:
Frankly, I, as a bounty hunter always thought that allowing my bomb droid to blow up the door on a jedi's house would be entertaining. That way the little geek could run into a house but I could blow the door off the hinges and kill him, if I wanted to waste a bomb droid. Until he got with a Architect to rehinge the door the building would be open to public. This would allow for a bit more RP in the game IMHO.
Frankly, I, as a Jedi always thought I should be able to slice off your hand and remove your weapon with the force would be entertaining as well. That way the little Bh geek could run to the forums and cry about how Jedi is too strong and should be nerfed and allow for a bit more RP in the game IMHO.......
rYsyn
Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:48 am
#42
Rukahs wrote:
I'm a Lvl 74 Bh and Went after my mark , all was going good till his force runs out , so he cloaks mid battle and meditats right in front of me regens and his doc friend rebuffs him , then he uncloaks and we go at it again same thing he runs off cloaks and regens mid battle , and then does it a third time this battle lasted about 45 mins cause he was a wuss and would run off cloak and heal,
First Off BH TEF Should be no cloaking durning the fight , if they cant get in a house why be able to cloak
Second Off The Doc healing him causehis tef ran off cause he was cloaked so long
Yes I died cause i couldnt run off and hide , and yes lvl 74 vs 80 i should have died
What do you true bh think
I tend to be a bit one sided when it comes to Jedi, but how is it that the Jedi's friends were able to target him while he was clocked and you could not? One would think that if you can target someone to allpy a buff, then you should be able to target them to attack as well?
Am I wrong on that? I thought that if a Jedi Clocked then they were not targetable, but that would mean that the Buffs could not be applied as well.
What am I missing?
Grimjakk
Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:04 am
#43
Eskie wrote:
Everything fair game except the CM DOT stuff. Applying CM DOTs after a Jedi cloaked is exploiting.
And applying Doc buffs wouldn't be?
WookieOgre
Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:11 am
#44
Grimjakk wrote:
Eskie wrote:
Everything fair game except the CM DOT stuff. Applying CM DOTs after a Jedi cloaked is exploiting.
And applying Doc buffs wouldn't be?
Once would say doing both is equally wrong. No way a Jedi should be helped while they are cloaked. Just like I believe a cloaked Jedi should not be cloaked and healing other players at the same time.....any action should break cloak inorder to balance the skill. Right now that is about the only thing that is wrong with it besides the perma invisible bug that some use to their advantage in PvP which turns to an exploit
Cloak is the end all skill in BH missions, it's in the GCW where you can jump people is where it gets very useful. Having first strike is powerful when the player is completely unaware of your presense (of course you can see the shadow of a Jedi so a smart player would always be aware lol)
rYsyn
Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:12 am
#45
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
I would guess in the same way that CM's are still able to paralyze a cloaked Jedi.
So somehow Doctors and Combat Medics can target a Clocked Jedi?
Is that intended or a bug?
Icemachine
Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:15 am
#46
move cloak to Master Powers
And "stay within 20m" is not enough, they root you, you root them, their root last longer and *poof* jedi force runs away and cloaks, comes back with buffs and foods and kill you...
And "stay within 20m" is not enough, they root you, you root them, their root last longer and *poof* jedi force runs away and cloaks, comes back with buffs and foods and kill you...
Twistingmind
Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:15 am
#47
its a bug, and its not targeting. If you see it happen it should be reported
rYsyn
Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:16 am
#48
Grimjakk wrote:
Eskie wrote:
Everything fair game except the CM DOT stuff. Applying CM DOTs after a Jedi cloaked is exploiting.
And applying Doc buffs wouldn't be?
Where have you been? Fair game is what helps Jedi &exploit is what hurts Jedi.
Of course a Doctor applying a buff to a clocked jedi is fair game, it is only an exploit of the doc applies it to the Bounty Hunter.
Twistingmind
Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:29 am
#50
You know. The main problem all these new BH have is that you do not understand a single thing about your mark or how their skills work. ANY jedi can be killed all it takes is a little skill and understanding. You need to understand that Jedi are very specialized. One with Mdefender/MLS will not have all the cool snares and other tricks to control you. One with Menhancer/MLS will not be able to take the damage you dish out very well, but will root you and beat you stupid. Mpower/Menhancer is going to try to controll you and the fight, but takes alot of damage and does less than a MLS trying to put you in a healing loop. And a dabbler will have less force, If you have cloak and are NOT a master powers then they do not have a double mastery because of the lost 28 skill points.Also the way Jedi tree's are set upwith the lower levels costing the most at 8 points for a first box, this keeps them fromdabblingvery muchas most of the skills they would like are all4th level boxs and it costs them a full 20 points, or 28 if they take nothing else in that profession. Learn about your mark and stop whining you can not kill them. Get differant tactics for differant marks.
Bigest thing to realize about Jedi. Because they are so specialized they have great strenghts in some ways, but this also leads to greatweaknes in other areas. A Jedi's job to make bring those strengths into play after first strike. Its a BH's job to bring out the weaknesses.
People who cry for nerfs out of lack of skills or understanding should just be gut shot so they linger on the edge of death for days before passing.
Puttley
Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:43 am
#51
so whats the weakness of a jedi with Imp aura (+600 R/M defence), +30 inate jedi armor (28% damage reduction), cloak, Force run 2, imp infusion 250heal/4 sec, supression, 1500 heals / 6 sec, channel,meditate& MLS? beggining to realise this is a popular template with alot of jedi i come accross, can beat me for ages, can heal like a b@st@rd, can run and regen when ever, brief stasis good defences, combine stasis, cloak & FR they can run and cloak whenever they like take 30 sec and comeback healed and ready to go again
WookieOgre
Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:53 am
#52
Puttley wrote:
so whats the weakness of a jedi with Imp aura (+600 R/M defence), +30 inate jedi armor (28% damage reduction), cloak, Force run 2, imp infusion 250heal/4 sec, supression, 1500 heals / 6 sec, channel,meditate& MLS? beggining to realise this is a popular template with alot of jedi i come accross, can beat me for ages, can heal like a b@st@rd, can run and regen when ever, brief stasis good defences, combine stasis, cloak & FR they can run and cloak whenever they like take 30 sec and comeback healed and ready to go again
I'm assuming you are talkng about the following template:
MLS / Enhancer 4xx4 / Healer 4xxx / Defender xx4x / Powers x4xx .....correct?
If so you should know they can not use stasis as it is a Master Enhancer ability. They can put Root or Snare on you but it has limited range.
And to give you an idea...... having just that one line in defender doesn't mean they are suddenly unbeatable lol.My BH has 306 accuracy before any food or using Aim. I can hit these one line Defender Jedi no problem.