Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: DONT STAND FOR THIS -- every customer has a say, make a difference !!!
ElvisTheKing wrote:
Here are a few things to consider:
1) Weapon Speed Tapes are broken. They do not add speed to attacks right now. Not sure if the accuracy tapes are broken. So as a BH, to hunt dual masters, we need those things to work.
Really? I didn't know that. I suppose its ironic then that Jedi Sabers are borken (speed that is) as well.
2) Missions only stay in the datapad for three days, so stalking and picking the best time to strike is very difficult if you happen to miss the online times of your mark. I am trying this now and its not working too well because the current mark I am tracking logs off, just as I am logging in.
I can't really argue here. Drop the mission and get another. It honestly sounds just like a whine rather then a major problem?
3) Mdefender defenses are so high that they encourage FOTM in jedi. I was fighting a Mdef/MLS for 45 minutes the other night. I know because I went through three spice downers during the fight. Eventually she ran away and I couldn't catch her. There were points in the fight where she would just stand still and regen force, and her basic defenses were good enough to keep me from harming her. I have a fix for this now, but, I am rapidly running out of toolbar space.
Mdef is on par with non-Jedi defenses. Hell its close to what even a bh+another elite can get. Factor in clothing and/or foods and what do you know, its pretty close? Why is it over powered simply because you didn't win in the first 5 mins. To me this sounds like it was a pretty close to 1 to 1 ratio on power. You couldn't kill him because of his defenses and he couldn't kill you because of his offense.
4) Many ranged profession specials are broken, so effects are not sticking or causing the described effect.
All states aren't working as intended. Its not necessarily limited to ranged. Even some specials within Jedi aren't working as intended or at all.
5) BH was nerfed last patch so that we basically have to be ranged BHs to hunt jedi. The moving of jedi bounties to master basically killed the melee BH. We can not play as a melee BH, which might be more effective.
So? Jedi were nerfed again the previous patch. You/We can go ti t for tat on nerf complaints. You can still be a melee if you want. Nothing preventing that. All this "master bh required" did was make Jedi hunting something of value to Masters. If I'm not mistaken this was a known item to be in the works. There isn't much you can do to change it. All you're doing now is whining.
6) Lastly, and this is important; Jedi do not need crafters, but we BH need crafters. We need them to make us weapons, armor, food, powerups, spices, swoops, BE clothesand droids. Because the Alpha class is self sufficient, it will hurt the game in the long run as the need for crafters and their goods dwindles. Its a simple law of supply and demand. Demand for armor and weapons is already much lower than it had been. This is compounded by the use of ADKs.
I love the flawed logic and let me tell you why its flawed. Jedi still require food and clothing. They still require armor (psg's and belts). They still require weapons (kiting bh'ers anyone?). They still require pets and medical supplies (mounts/tanks + stims). In addition to that most (at least old school) Jedi have a crafting alt to supply their heavy cost associated with Jedi. (yes it is higher then BH however I can't argue with someone that b!tches over a measely 5 mil weapon especially when my saber alone is worth over 150mil). And since most Jedi alts are crafters they are giving back to the servers communities.
Now if you want to argue that Jedi A) don't need all of these things or B) Jedi don't supply any of these things, I'll simply argue that we use whats needed to be better then stock. Amazingly enough thats something even BH'ers do. Funny huh? When was the last time a mark of yours didn't use foods, a saber, a psg, clothing or anythign else?
So please consider these things when you discuss the jedi v. bh dynamic. To me it is one of the most compelling parts of this game, but the devs have effectively nuetered it with the last changes to the the BH profession.
). However I do understand what its like to be on the other side of the fence. Of course I'll be instantly shot down but can anyone prove me wrong? Not with a gut check emotional and unwitty response but pure logic?ow so they arent 1.5 times more powerful ?
ESINOTH
wipe them out.. all of them
WoLfPaCk inc.
you know you dont have to paste your sig in eveyr time...rofl
k im going to pretend i have a clue what your talking about......yes cute 
ESINOTH
wipe them out.. all of them
WoLfPaCk inc.
WoLpAcK wrote:
you know you dont have to paste your sig in eveyr time...rofl
k im going to pretend i have a clue what your talking about......yes cute
ESIN
OTH
wipe them out.. all of them
WoLfPaCk inc.
hmm i guess not but its weird it adds your sig into the quote
WoLpAcK wrote:
MasterofSaber wrote:
I have both Jedi and MBH to take jedi now, you have to have healin and combo of healin+ruby bleil(sp?)+ stims and you can get good healin aswell if you have the right foods to go along in fight. You win some you loose some.
what all you jediwith bh alts dont realise is once you get sick of dieing to a jedi you can switch onto an overpowered toon that you can run about with and pvp....non jedi bh'sdont have that enjoyment so id rather have my only profession fun for me to play. I dont expect a bh with a jedi alt to understand any of the problems that i and other bh's face because your more bothered about where your next pearls coming from than fixing a totally unbalanced system.
Having one popular profession inan online game is bad regardless of how the pro Jedi wannabes want to think otherwise. That being said, as far as the BH dying everytime. If you just jump off and shoot away yes you will die. Take advantage of first strike. Get off your bike and stalk him from afar. If he is dueling or taking on a Krayt and his mind bar is REAL LOW.. Gank him... He will die, end of story. Any BH can increase their killrate 100 fold if you just remain patient.
Here are a few things to consider:
1) Weapon Speed Tapes are broken. They do not add speed to attacks right now. Not sure if the accuracy tapes are broken. So as a BH, to hunt dual masters, we need those things to work.
2) Missions only stay in the datapad for three days, so stalking and picking the best time to strike is very difficult if you happen to miss the online times of your mark. I am trying this now and its not working too well because the current mark I am tracking logs off, just as I am logging in.
3) Mdefender defenses are so high that they encourage FOTM in jedi. I was fighting a Mdef/MLS for 45 minutes the other night. I know because I went through three spice downers during the fight. Eventually she ran away and I couldn't catch her. There were points in the fight where she would just stand still and regen force, and her basic defenses were good enough to keep me from harming her. I have a fix for this now, but, I am rapidly running out of toolbar space.
4) Many ranged profession specials are broken, so effects are not sticking or causing the described effect.
5) BH was nerfed last patch so that we basically have to be ranged BHs to hunt jedi. The moving of jedi bounties to master basically killed the melee BH. We can not play as a melee BH, which might be more effective.
6) Lastly, and this is important; Jedi do not need crafters, but we BH need crafters. We need them to make us weapons, armor, food, powerups, spices, swoops, BE clothesand droids. Because the Alpha class is self sufficient, it will hurt the game in the long run as the need for crafters and their goods dwindles. Its a simple law of supply and demand. Demand for armor and weapons is already much lower than it had been. This is compounded by the use of ADKs.
So please consider these things when you discuss the jedi v. bh dynamic. To me it is one of the most compelling parts of this game, but the devs have effectively nuetered it with the last changes to the the BH profession.
Nathanielstarr wrote:
I just say don't be a jedi's content. Let them get bored fighting each other....they are begging for us as content I say don't give it to them.
Oh noes! Don't throw me in that briar patch, Brer Fox!
Nathanielstarr wrote:
I just say don't be a jedi's content. Let them get bored fighting each other....they are begging for us as content I say don't give it to them.
Hmmm, i really coudln't give a rat's a$$ if a bh hunted me or not. I'm pretty sure that almost every knight would love to be rid of dealing with bh's as we were. FUn every once in a while, but it does get old.
I beg you big bad bh's to come kill me because all ya can go for is the padawans. Your not doing your job, your leaving most of us un bothered.
Make this thread on the jedi forums and i bet you'll be getting cheers and at most a/sigh oh well from those who want to be hunted.