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Thread: Publish 20 Feedback

Blair_SoulEdge
Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:45 am
#40






Sneev wrote:


I think its obvious that the design of Kashyyyk is intended to sell copies of ROTW to existing players who are leveling up their Jedi. It was designed to make it easy for them to level on safely, so that it would sell the expansion to those players who might otherwise have ignored it. It will remain exploitable like this as long as its good for sales - and thats why they stated it was a Producer's decision not a devs.





Sorry didn't read the whole thing (don't plan to either, no offense), and this is irrevelant, but IMO there shouldn't be a "safe zone" for jedi to gain experience....let alone A WHOLE PLANET?!?!?!one1111 WTH LOL


The journey to jedi knight should be an arduous task like the devs said in the beginning of this game....guess they eased off on it a little.



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Tutae
Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:49 am
#41



Sneev wrote:

I think its obvious that the design of Kashyyyk is intended to sell copies of ROTW to existing players who are leveling up their Jedi. It was designed to make it easy for them to level on safely, so that it would sell the expansion to those players who might otherwise have ignored it. It will remain exploitable like this as long as its good for sales - and thats why they stated it was a Producer's decision not a devs.

For the same reason identifying your mark on the terminal has been made difficult as well, though not completely impossible it seems. This is probably because Bounty Hunter is the second most popular profession after Jedi, and many Jedi have a BH alt. They can't cripple BH entirely or risk losing that segment of the playerbase.

In other words its all about the sales revenue and nothing about the game balance or reason. Arguing against it is like p****** into the wind. Jedi produces sales, and sales gets executives promoted and increases the bottom line. The game is progressing along this path because it sells to the public that way. Same thing with the CU, its easier for people to understand a level based system because thats what they had in other games, so this game has switched from its clever skills-based system to a hybrid that includes levels. Likewise the curren gutting of the crafting classes - this patch introduced a bug that makes experimentation completely impossible (well you can do it but you are blind to the results, so same thing effectively) that was reported on TC but completely ignored and went live anyways. So, probably no crafting being done at all until they fix that for most if not all crafters. I know I will be producing NO weapons in the forseeable future. Most crafting professions have major flaws in them, but the represent a smaller portion of the population so they get screwed over patch after patch, and the devs introduce increased drops with ROTW so that crafters are marginalized even further.

Soon you are going to have a KOTOR flavoured version of EQ 1 in space because the producers have decided that tearing things out of the game is easier than fixing problems.

I am glad to see you can at least get the mark's name from a Seeker droid, since those were bugged before at least this might make them need purchasing a bit more often.






This is the most comprehensive statement on the state of SWG ever. You should have to read this right after the TOS before you log in. Depressing.



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instapeace
Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:50 am
#42

SOUNDS LIKE EVERYTHING IS WORKING AS INTENDED.


At least all the jedi are happy with their free XP planet.
After their grind is done they are happy slaughtering MBHs 1v1.


There must be an airborne down syndrome virus circulating in the SOE-SWG producers conference room.





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Cphopp
Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:41 pm
#43

Jedi missions created only for online jedi my @ss


and the whole have to be within 1k of the jedi to get their name....BULL


FINNALY after 15 or so attempts I find a jedi NOT offline...and not on kashyyk


send first seeker after getting bio sig...whew..online..and now on kashyyk...


go out send akaryd...track em to tatooine....get to tatooine...send up single seeker to get name....never get name....go to BH boards find you have to be withint 1km AND send up the single seeker....well I'm already screwed cause I send out the seeker again after I sent out my single use....so now...well just dont have a name...fine..


track jedi to a guild hall dueling...is a public one...I go in....find him pretty much being incapped over n over losing the duel....attack only to find he was not my target................


BULL TANKS BULL





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Betto
Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:45 pm
#44

I have taken about 10 missions so far and when i go to launch a droid it says jedi not online for all 10?????



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pazor
Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:49 pm
#45


Ok so here i go again


Im now up fora fight if i lose it only makes me stronger !


But pls cant they do somthing about kash (here somone goes again about kash) i have had 6 missions now on kash..


Its like a bug where you are hunting a npc and he aint where he is supposed to be,,


Pls if the guys in charge wanna keep it a safe haven for jedi's fine...But please remove them from the term's so im not going backward and forth sending out probs..





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Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:57 pm
#46






pazor wrote:


Ok so here i go again


Im now up fora fight if i lose it only makes me stronger !


But pls cant they do somthing about kash (here somone goes again about kash) i have had 6 missions now on kash..


Its like a bug where you are hunting a npc and he aint where he is supposed to be,,


Pls if the guys in charge wanna keep it a safe haven for jedi's fine...But please remove them from the term's so im not going backward and forth sending out probs..





I'm not sure if you've been a BH for very long, but...


When I ground BH, way-back-when, that was a very real problem.





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HeartlessHunter
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:07 pm
#47

Well I guess that publish 20 works fine just confrims even more know of afk grinders on Kash. I pulled 20 missions. Out of the 20 missions pulled only 1 was a viable target not on Kash. In addition I am on the Kauri server and I too can do without the jedi griefing around the terms on Kadarra.


I understand they want to get read of 5 man gank teams. That is cool. However I do like to know my mark while i am scanning the terminal. Yes I know you get the name with the droid. Blah blah blah. However I get the name back and if it is a mission I will drop i just wasted a droid and my credits. Know the whole credit thing is another big issue. What is this you get a bonus if you complete your mission. What are we sales people know working on commission I don't think so. If you wanted to prevent some of these issues you should have kept the names on the terms add the online status and make it so that only 2 hunters can take the mission. I think this compromise would help.

Message Edited by HeartlessHunter on 07-19-200508:58 PM

Message Edited by HeartlessHunter on 07-19-2005 08:58 PM




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AllHandlestaken
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:11 pm
#48

Serious problem with cloaking. Not many BH will figure this out until they fight one that has it. The Jedi can now cloak WHILE TEFed! This means that as soon as you get 20 meters away from the jedi they are gone, which we must do to fire effectively. ThisMUST change; it is way too much of an advantage. It is like a get out of fight free skill. Sony gets rid of the "mobile homes" then changes it so thatJedi now have a skill that can do the exact same thing now. Imagine that.



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Cada_Kai
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:13 pm
#49






AllHandlestaken wrote:

Serious problem with cloaking. Not many BH will figure this out until they fight one that has it. The Jedi can now cloak WHILE TEFed! This means that as soon as you get 20 meters away from the jedi they are gone, which we must do to fire effectively. ThisMUST change; it is way too much of an advantage. It is like a get out of fight free skill. Sony gets rid of the "mobile homes" then changes it so thatJedi now have a skill that can do the exact same thing now. Imagine that.



'Eternal








this skill is working exactly as it did pre oub 20.


It is meant to be an escape skill.





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Wraith51180
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:19 pm
#50






Corvett wrote:






TardWrangler wrote:
Ok you tell me what self respecting bounty hunter is going to take a mission without knowing who they are going to hunt much less not even know how much they are going to get paid. This new system is a fuggin joke. Did SOE ever bother to get feedback from real bounty hunters? Jedi with a BH alt to hold their mission doesn't count. This Pub20 is lame and make no sense what so ever.





Sounds like someone is mad cause they can't pick on noobs anymore.








So explain to me the role of bounty hunter now in this game? Just and npc hunter...or are we supposed to go after player charecters. To me that sounds much more interesting than hunting npcs who are ai and not as adept atchanging with the situation. So nowwhen wesee a jedi force middle fingering and showing off in starports or deuling there buddy jedi in starports we cant just stoll to the bh terminal pick there name and clobber them for being the a hole jedi. So what are we supposed to do now take a bounty you think might pay 220k if it is a jedi worthy, look with our seekers for 15 mins then get the name after you know who it is they deul check you to see if you are a bh then they logg out casue that immediatly drops your mission. THen they logg back in and every thing is normal again, like they never left. The ods of pulling the same jedi formthe terminals is astronomical. How is this good for any profession including jedi who know they are taking advantage of something in their favor. which is fine but this is out of hand. Cant we get the saber tef back please!!!!!!!!!!! That would be balance then everyone can punish jedi like it should be not just bh but anyone who roleplays the game and understands Jedi should be hideing. I can deal with all the other things but names not on the terminals man that has to be wrong, I say if your not activly seekng a target that you took form the terminals it is reported to the bh guild and your banned from the player bounties untill you sucessfully complete 4 high level npc missons. That alone should stop bh jedi friends from sheilding the jedi from the real BH's. I stuck it out this long as bh I keep going but man some thign has to be done rationally about all profession not just what ever sells lunch boxes. As for the paddies if after you die you loss xp is gained back in groups now so you wont make the terminals unless you show off in starport right?
S0ldad0
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:20 pm
#51



TardWrangler wrote:
Yeah I know, that still doesn't answer my question. What kind of bounty hunter takes missions without information up front. Fuggin joke.





HAHA!

BH dont go out searching for someone....some asks them to take out a mark - that they want eliminated.
No BH goes out looking for a job to kill a specific person.

The fact that you are angry makes me go:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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AllHandlestaken
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:21 pm
#52

Now Cloak is different from pre20....you could always /target them and throw DOTs...now you cannot target..bid difference!



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Overlord of 'SS'
Valley of Shadows Mayor (Talus)
187 Jedi Slain Post CU
41 Million Earned
220+ Marks Slain NGE
21.7+ Million Earned
"A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic."

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