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Thread: and........im never hunting another jedi.... ever.

Pink-Floyd
Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:16 pm
#27






Jacella wrote:

Some advise:


If you quit, then nobody wins. Hunting jedi isn't incredibly difficult, and it is all in the timing. You aren'ta tank, so stop fighting like one. Wait and attack when they are otherwise engaged. You aren't supposed to hunt 20 jedi a night, just 1 or 2. Take your time and don't attack unless things are favorable to you, ie they are in a duel, killing stormies, or mobs...or best yet, afk. Catch them with their pants down and you will win every time...or almost every time. And no, you don't need combat medic or doctor to do it...just HUNT your target, not rush in guns ablaze.







I caught an AFK jedi once and I was hitting him with a 1100 damage laser rifle for 30 seconds and his health went to about half..and he came back and promptly pwned me



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BDragon
Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:27 pm
#28


NewReborn wrote:

listen.

i dont want to hunt low level paddies that are no challenge that i can walk up to and gank them. that is no fun.

i want to fight 200k-220k that are nearly full temp but are feasable to beat.

and to the post above me, i want hunting to be hard. i dont want hunting to be pointlessly idiotic.

and, it seems that ive fought pre-cu sabers almost constantly, as each jedi is wacking me for about 900-1200, and i have 8050 or so recon

so whatever, make bounty hunting harder, give me more of a reward so im not spending more than im getting due to fighting 5 or 6 jedi before i can kill one.

pretty much the only way i can kill a jedi now is to wait for them to be occupied, or fighting something. (i also have a good T21, so its not like the gun is the problem)






And whats the problem here?

You want to fight the top level Jedi, but expect to just roll up to us when we're fully buffed and on 100% force and attack us with a 50/50 chance of winning? Na, not going to happen and never should be feasable for a BH to win that way. If you dont want to be forced into using the element of surprise and attacking when a Jedi is disadvantaged then i maybe BH really wasnt for you at all and you should consider yourself lucky you only have to fight CU-flavour Jedi and not a real Jedi who could dispatch you in seconds regardless of your armour or the size of your T-21.

Jedi was meant to be the hardest thing in this game to play, with that said hunting a Jedi should not be easier either. Why should it be easy to cause the effects a BH death can have on a Jedi?

Message Edited by BDragon on 08-02-2005 03:31 PM



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Vcardossk
Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:37 pm
#29






sippinonswerve wrote:

what is this element of suprise you speak of and how do you obtain it when you can look on a radar and see anyone within 500 meters or more of you ?





I've been suprised, hanging in my city getting missions BAM bh.


pre-cu i was just spinning a lair and BAM melee bh knocks me on the floor and kills me.


DOn't be stupid, that'll help for starters.



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GinazResser
Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:38 pm
#30

I could just hear the crying from jedi's if solo BH's could beat them straight up on a regular basis. Sorry, but I don't have hours to waste following someone around waiting for the "perfect" time to strike and get lucky. Theres no way a solo BH should be able to beat any full temp jedi thats halfway decent. I've killed over 200 jedi so I'm no noob when it comes to killing them. I know that fighting a full temp when he's not occupied or low on health equals death. I used to play BH because it was the most fun and unique part of the game. Wheres the fun in knowing your going to die everytime you pull a mission like that? I at least would like a shot at winning, which is why being able to choose the payout worked for me. Remove the names if they want but keep the old payout system.

sippinonswerve
Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:38 pm
#31

so in other words the bh just lucked out and wanderd into you at the right time. Ive killed a couple jedi like that but lets not start bragging about how skill is luck and luck is skill two completely different concepts.

Message Edited by sippinonswerve on 08-02-2005 03:40 PM

Eleutherios
Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:40 pm
#32

If they're fully templated, chances are, you'll run into them during PvP. PvP generates insane visibility, and you'll often find your marks overt or at least combatant trying to take a base.


Sit and wait. If they're PvP and getting owned, run up quick for the DB. If they're doing PvP and they're winning, wait until he's channeling or meditating or whatever to kill him -- he'll be low on force. Same goes for PvE.



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BDragon
Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:43 pm
#33


sippinonswerve wrote:
what is this element of suprise you speak of and how do you obtain it when you can look on a radar and see anyone within 500 meters or more of you ?





..../sigh

He wants to beat Knight level Jedi. At that we level have a grand total of 3 things to do realistically when logged on. 1: PvP, 2: Help lower lvl grind, 3: Loot wh0re. When a BH turns up, we will most likely be doing one of those things. When the BH gets into range, chances are we will be with other people and as such wont know if you're there for us and most likely, we really dont care, or even worse for you, we hope you are because we're bored.

As a BH you can either, open up fire soon as you get in rnage (bad choice), pretend to be there for another Jedi (smarter choice) or pretned to be there for a completely different reason (better choice in certain instances, like mass PvP or well populated loot area, starport).

If you cant figure out a way to surprise a Jedi when you turn up, thats really your failing and you deserve to die.



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-Dark Jedi Knight-

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The darkside has made me strong.... the devs have made me weak

A new vision for the Lightsaber Tree
ner0sputnik
Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:44 pm
#34






NewReborn wrote:

alright... im done hunting jedi... i gave the new terminal thing a try, but its just not worth all the money i spend on food and droids etc to hunt full temps everytime, i have kill one jedi (since i cannot hunt anything but full temps) since pub 20, and that was because i caught him in a duel.


now....i wanted to be a BH for the pvp.... since you cant go overt without being killed instantly by 50cloaked jedi waiting for you...


yeah... im pretty tired of the jedi getting all the love...oh hey, half the force cost for jedi...woot....


oh hey wow, we get npc loot....whatever, i want to hunt jedi that are fun to fight, and the fight could go either way... but i fight MD/ML full temps constantly, most with pre cu sabers hitting me for 1200 a hit...


forget it... im going to pay soe for a few months so i can get my glowstick then im done....






That reminds me of a funny story.. Yesterday there was a big pvp event happening in Theed (I'm on Eclipse, too.) It was my first one. I helped my fellow rebs take down a couple of the imps and remembered that I should really clone. Especially since the lag was so bad, I'd go get cloned.


I'm running around, trying to find the cloning machine (I'd entered the room but it hadn't appeared yet)


There's some dude who had already diedfollowing me aroundtrying to taunt me saying, "Rebs are soft. I bet you can't beat me one on one." I said, "Yeah, you're probably right." He kept following me trying to taunt, I kept laughing at him and saying, "Hey! Don't forget I'm a noob, pal." As I'm cruising down this one corridor, this jedi uncloaks next to me. "Awww *expletive deleted* I hit my bacta shot to repair most of my damage, knock him down, root him and start blasting him with crit shot and head shot." He's almost down to no health and he runs away. I don't care, I'm just here to get cloned. (Must've been a paddy or I would've been hammered)


The guy keeps following me, "Yeah, see? You rebs are soft." "ROFL! MAN! You haven't called me a noob yet! Come on! Call me a noob!" He left. I cloned. Then got lag-killed.


Ahhh, good times.




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sippinonswerve
Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:44 pm
#35

since 20 ive come across 6 full templates guess i must be really unluck caught one coming out of a cloner hit him with adv sniper shot for 800 damage followed by a crit and head shot took him to half he popped a stim good bye first strike. the other 5 were just hanging out in the wild on dant when i pulled up. GO figure they were just sitting there talking in spatial. Gotta love the force aura macros . Grante di only spend about 15 percent of my play time hunting jedi mainly cause every mission i get seems to be a full temp i did get a paddy once but he just got a ride in his friends speeder every time i got close to killing him that was a lot of fun.

Message Edited by sippinonswerve on 08-02-2005 03:48 PM

mikeymonkey
Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:00 pm
#36

We get all the love? How long have you been playing? A month? I'm totally confused.

You must mean the corrupt-priest, internet-stalker, Neverland-Ranch kind of love.



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awentwor
Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:11 pm
#37






NewReborn wrote:

again, i have the first strike, i know. but if you dont realize it does almost nothing to a nice little master defender with some heals, then whatever. i truely have fought almost strait MDs since pub 20.






A master defender has what... about 250-260 melee / range defense? This is the same as most other characters at CL80. Inate Jedi armor gives them equivelant to around 40-50% armor. Turn on force aura and it is equivelant to Center of Being skills. As you can see... Defender is not overbearing by any means.


Now lets look at why Jedi are all master defenders now. People cried about the lightsaber toughness - NERFED. People cried about range blocking - NERFED. You really wonder why Jedi are all now MDefenders? It's the only defenses they get. You either take defender skills or you are destroyed by BH's. MDefender is not *required* but it definately makes it worth while to have. Especially with the hundreds of respec BH's there are.


Look at WHY Jedi are all MDefenders. The community made them that way.






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GinazResser
Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:18 pm
#38



awentwor wrote:


NewReborn wrote:
again, i have the first strike, i know. but if you dont realize it does almost nothing to a nice little master defender with some heals, then whatever. i truely have fought almost strait MDs since pub 20.



A master defender has what... about 250-260 melee / range defense? This is the same as most other characters at CL80. Inate Jedi armor gives them equivelant to around 40-50% armor. Turn on force aura and it is equivelant to Center of Being skills. As you can see... Defender is not overbearing by any means.

Now lets look at why Jedi are all master defenders now. People cried about the lightsaber toughness - NERFED. People cried about range blocking - NERFED. You really wonder why Jedi are all now MDefenders? It's the only defenses they get. You either take defender skills or you are destroyed by BH's. MDefender is not *required* but it definately makes it worth while to have. Especially with the hundreds of respec BH's there are.

Look at WHY Jedi are all MDefenders. The community made them that way.






Try going on the vette without any defender or any other high end mob for that matter. Its not just about pvp.

Vcardossk
Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:21 pm
#39






sippinonswerve wrote:

so in other words the bh just lucked out and wanderd into you at the right time. Ive killed a couple jedi like that but lets not start bragging about how skill is luck and luck is skill two completely different concepts.

Message Edited by sippinonswerve on 08-02-2005 03:40 PM





Not really, i'd seen the guy in there coming back for missions a couple times, he waited for the right time.


This was back when solo groups took about 20min per round to complete 1/2 missions.


And one of them attack me in the middle of my grind RIGHT as i was starting at my comp screen, i didn't notice him until he was right on top of me.


To many bh's make it painfully obvious they're hunting a mark, and the fact that i've been spotting bh's for about a year doesn't help you.



Not showing up on rader would be a DEAD giveaway in a city.





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