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Thread: Read:Don't Nerf BH loot!

Nezodon
Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:49 am
#27






TashunkaSapa wrote:





Nezodon wrote:


I think your right to be paranoid because of how the community in this game works, as soon as a profession get a boost to it the people who arnt that profession complain untilitis removed rather than trying tobetter their own profession this is the way of things.


The only thing better than getting something cool for yourself is stopping someone elsefrom getting anything!







QFE - take a look at the Smuggler forums if you need proof that there are people like that in this game.


It's funny how players slam the Developers for nerfing things, when it's inevitably players who are calling for them to nerf someone else...








Ill offer you a prediction and from experience i see it happening, BH loot tables get changed meaning it lowers the good loot we get this means people realise that they have a better chance farming aakaun missions so again BH nps missions come to a stop.


Now lets move onto the profession which ive been for the longest time smuggler, they add smuggling missions to the game but upon seeing how much other professions didnt like the new BH loot system they decide to do the same thing to smuggler by not implementing a cool loot system because it would be seen as unfavourable to other professions.


Looking at the history of this game its not the developers nerfing professions its the players as the old saying goes "be careful what you wish for it may come true" if you dont want BH's to get this loot and if the devs act on it people have stopped their own chances of receiveing this level of loot for their professions.





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BadgerSmaker
Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:54 am
#28






CoriStonerie wrote:
I haven't seen too much nerf-calling yet, but the Pistoleer correspondent has made two posts that have basically only been "What's the point of PVE if you're not a BH now?" You'd think a corresponent (And for my other profession, no less) would be one to welcome getting good loot out to the common-player and encourage fixing all the other loot tables rather than throw out posts like that. It appears like he's not overtly calling for a BH loot nerf, but the subtext is that he's definately not happy about it. (But then, being a long-tme pistoleer, since when do the devs listen to us?





I like loot... I'm happy that BH get loot. I wasn't one of the correspondants that asked for this to not get pushed live.


I haven't asked for nerfs, I have asked for the rest of the loot tables to get fixed.




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dentorious
Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:02 am
#29


There is no reason for the DEVS to nerf this loot system. The smuggler tools are common drops, I believe thisis working as intended. After 4 hours of npc hunts last night I only drew 1 gold chevron and two silverchevrons. The rest were common targets with common drops.



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CivicBountyHunter
Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:08 am
#30






BadgerSmaker wrote:






CoriStonerie wrote:
I haven't seen too much nerf-calling yet, but the Pistoleer correspondent has made two posts that have basically only been "What's the point of PVE if you're not a BH now?" You'd think a corresponent (And for my other profession, no less) would be one to welcome getting good loot out to the common-player and encourage fixing all the other loot tables rather than throw out posts like that. It appears like he's not overtly calling for a BH loot nerf, but the subtext is that he's definately not happy about it. (But then, being a long-tme pistoleer, since when do the devs listen to us?





I like loot... I'm happy that BH get loot. I wasn't one of the correspondants that asked for this to not get pushed live.


I haven't asked for nerfs, I have asked for the rest of the loot tables to get fixed.






Changed my Mind BadgerSmaker - At first I said I'm sorry for implicating you....But after watching a few responses in here (bh forums) in a another thread....you are indirectly asking for this to be nerfed, and are acting REALLY unprofessional. One word answer "balance" when telling us why people are asking for nerfs? How the hell did you become a coro?

Message Edited by CivicBountyHunter on 08-06-200509:13 AM

Message Edited by CivicBountyHunter on 08-06-2005 09:13 AM




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TashunkaSapa
Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:08 am
#31






Nezodon wrote:


Ill offer you a prediction and from experience i see it happening, BH loot tables get changed meaning it lowers the good loot we get this means people realise that they have a better chance farming aakaun missions so again BH nps missions come to a stop.


Now lets move onto the profession which ive been for the longest time smuggler, they add smuggling missions to the game but upon seeing how much other professions didnt like the new BH loot system they decide to do the same thing to smuggler by not implementing a cool loot system because it would be seen as unfavourable to other professions.


Looking at the history of this game its not the developers nerfing professions its the players as the old saying goes "be careful what you wish for it may come true" if you dont want BH's to get this loot and if the devs act on it people have stopped their own chances of receiveing this level of loot for their professions.






Dead on, my friend. It's the vocal, irrational Smugglers who are going to hang their own profession out of spite. We're not hearing from the level-headed ones because they realize that this ISN'T detrimental to their profession.




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brokaw242
Sat Aug 06, 2005 7:15 am
#32

/sign
Reyza
Sat Aug 06, 2005 7:46 am
#33






TashunkaSapa wrote:

/sign


Don't let jealous Smugglers screw up something good out of spite!








Hahahahaha.


Why does this not surprise me?


I didn't even realize it was you posting Tash until I hit quote.


I'm not in favor of nerfing BH loot at all, but I disagree with making loot drops for other professions specific to the BH profession.


BH marks are tough and I think the loot drops are according. I lovehunting for quality random loot. Smugglers have been 2 years for a revamp and when they get 1, its a rediculous new slice with rare drop on components that everyone wants and they still can't smuggle. I think they have a right to be upset over this.


Imagine being a BH when the game started except you couldn't actually take BHmissions. You wait 2 years for a revampand you still can't take a BH mission.


Message Edited by Reyza on 08-06-2005 10:47 AM



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CivicBountyHunter
Sat Aug 06, 2005 1:08 pm
#34






Reyza wrote:






TashunkaSapa wrote:

/sign


Don't let jealous Smugglers screw up something good out of spite!








Hahahahaha.


Why does this not surprise me?


I didn't even realize it was you posting Tash until I hit quote.


I'm not in favor of nerfing BH loot at all, but I disagree with making loot drops for other professions specific to the BH profession.


BH marks are tough and I think the loot drops are according. I lovehunting for quality random loot. Smugglers have been 2 years for a revamp and when they get 1, its a rediculous new slice with rare drop on components that everyone wants and they still can't smuggle. I think they have a right to be upset over this.


Imagine being a BH when the game started except you couldn't actually take BHmissions. You wait 2 years for a revampand you still can't take a BH mission.



Message Edited by Reyza on 08-06-2005 10:47 AM




Well honestly untill recently (what last 3-4 months?) BH was dead. Our missions where borked, droids in the past have not worked for PC marks at all, or if the did, they where buggy and unrealiable at best. (I know, it was a 'back in the day' comment, thank god MBH has finially been pulled out of the gutter...hopefully other 'normal' classes to follow)

Albiet I can see some smugs get'n a little cheesed that BH get to hunt for the loot and to boot I believe the fabled smug revamp has been pushed back yet again.....but look at the big picture here....last week, if you, as a smug wanted to get some of the slice loot what where youre options? It was a case of either A) How much you where willing to spend or B) How much time you where willing to spend looking for that 'rare' drop.What are youre options now? C)Trade loot/services with BH to obtain needed pieces D) Group up with a BH guildie E) Buy them at a MUCH lower price. All better options IMO, maybe not the best solution, but in terms of SOE, it is about as good as they seem to get it




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CivicBountyHunter
Sat Aug 06, 2005 1:11 pm
#35






BadgerSmaker wrote:






CoriStonerie wrote:
I haven't seen too much nerf-calling yet, but the Pistoleer correspondent has made two posts that have basically only been "What's the point of PVE if you're not a BH now?" You'd think a corresponent (And for my other profession, no less) would be one to welcome getting good loot out to the common-player and encourage fixing all the other loot tables rather than throw out posts like that. It appears like he's not overtly calling for a BH loot nerf, but the subtext is that he's definately not happy about it. (But then, being a long-tme pistoleer, since when do the devs listen to us?





I like loot... I'm happy that BH get loot. I wasn't one of the correspondants that asked for this to not get pushed live.


I haven't asked for nerfs, I have asked for the rest of the loot tables to get fixed.





My My badger....where did that post go....oh that is right, it got deleted right after I quoted you about 7 times either asking indirectly for nerfs or just plain trolling. For the record, you where asking for nerfs, and you where acting like a teenager, not a prof coro.





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Reyza
Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:32 pm
#36

I know there'salot of animosity floatingaround atm, that I'd like to remind everyone that smugglers are notmad at BHs or hold them responsible for what's happening.


In 4-5 hours of hunting for the first time since pub21, here's what I looted.


Adv Recon Core x7 2389/4389 base 3389

2 Clear Crytals 991 and 1086 (quality TBD)

AA Def vs Intim +6 and General Ranged Accuracy +9

AA Hvy Weap Def +8 and Bleeding Resist +14

CA Melee Def +10 and General Ranged Accuracy +19

RIS One-sheet

4 BH schematics legs/helm/belt/left bicep

4 Del Trig Assemblies

4 ICBs

3 Mando Intraframes

3 Reactive Micro Platings




It's christmas in August!!!!


I had a blast and was eagerly anticipating each drop to see what I'd get. Ofcourse I had help, the +20k health marks are a bit tough for a non-healer. My only concern is with the influx of high endsmuggler components,profit margins for smugglers are going to plumet. It would be fineif they were the ones doing the looting, but they're not. I sincerely BH loot doesn't get nerfed but rather they replace smugglerrewards with somethingelse and create adamn smugg mob that only they can kill which drops their loot.




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OhBuggah
Sat Aug 06, 2005 3:05 pm
#37

I'm a BH and I think the loot drop rates and ease of killing the marks is ridiculous. After just 2 days of the new loot system I look through my galaxy's trade forums and NOBODY is buying any CA/AA's anymore, nor smuggler loot. The market is already saturated after 2 days and has turned loot for everyone -- BH's and Non-BH's -- totally worthless. The effect of having these new BH loots is the exact same as if there were a credit dupe out there.


They should at the very least just have one loot item drop per corpse -- not 4. They also need to make the boss mobs the only ones who drop the good stuff (SEAs, etc. ) and they also need to be buffed to CL85 like Nightsister Protectors. Let the low level marks drop the smuggler loot and the regular elites drop the weaponsmithing components, and the boss mobs drop the SEAs. There also needs to be a possibility that the marks won't drop anything. Having a 100% drop rate is ridiculous.
Reyza
Sat Aug 06, 2005 3:32 pm
#38

Non-boss 30k+ health marks are pretty tough for a BH with no healing skills whatsoever or maybe it's just me.





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Darth-Malus
Sat Aug 06, 2005 3:51 pm
#39



Reyza wrote:


I know there's alot of animosity floating around atm, that I'd like to remind everyone that smugglers are not mad at BHs or hold them responsible for what's happening.



There are some who are, and they tend to be the more vocal of your community. Remarks like:


As if today, my slicing prices are as follows:


1. Inquiry 10k


2. Each slice, 1 million


3. Each complaint, add 200k


4. Special for BH's, add 20% to all above.


That's a pretty clear indicator of animosity if you ask me. Yes, Smugglers are long overdue for a revamp. But changing BH missions isn't going to help smugglers - I'm glad you realize that but some of your colleagues don't.





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