Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: The New Loot and You...
aekeem
Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:15 am
#27
KyiasLightsun wrote:
It's content, and when you get content you don't complain about it....ESPECIALLY when it is something everyone has been wanting for a long time:
this is the same content we've always had.go get mission, launch droid, walk to waypoint, possibly drop camp or abort mission due to bugs, if not then kill, repeat as necessary. these are the exact same marks we've been fighting forever, they just finally changed a few numbers so they've got a bit more health. and the second half of your statement shows exactly why it is so ridiculous that it took this long to implement, people have been asking for this for a long time, now all of a sudden blixtev comes out of nowhere and does it over a weekend, and instead of being informed of this through reading player feedback he discovers this on his own. why didn't he know a LONG time ago that this was something that might need to be looked at? oh yeah, because apparently our feedback isn't important enough to read. 
-Sene-
Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:28 am
#28
i wish i had some extra skill points to get a block or two in merchant, lol, i have a few things i can sell now.
Brete
Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:34 am
#29
QFE
OhBuggah wrote:
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No one is going to pay millions of credits for the loot if it is "plentiful". CA, SEA's, smuggler toolkits will all be devalued if these npc marks continue to be very, very easy kills. Earlier I killed a boss mark while I answered the phone AFK. It dropped 2 smuggler tookits and a +6 Force Accuracy CA. That's ridiculous. These boss marks that drop the good stuff need to be the same difficulty along the lines of super battle droids or nightsister elders.
If it stays as it is, the market will be oversaturated and everything ... all the loot that non-BH's get from other mobs will be devalued and worthless.
KyiasLightsun
Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:36 am
#30
aekeem wrote:
KyiasLightsun wrote:
It's content, and when you get content you don't complain about it....ESPECIALLY when it is something everyone has been wanting for a long time:
this is the same content we've always had. go get mission, launch droid, walk to waypoint, possibly drop camp or abort mission due to bugs, if not then kill, repeat as necessary. these are the exact same marks we've been fighting forever, they just finally changed a few numbers so they've got a bit more health. and the second half of your statement shows exactly why it is so ridiculous that it took this long to implement, people have been asking for this for a long time, now all of a sudden blixtev comes out of nowhere and does it over a weekend, and instead of being informed of this through reading player feedback he discovers this on his own. why didn't he know a LONG time ago that this was something that might need to be looked at? oh yeah, because apparently our feedback isn't important enough to read.
I'm not saying the devs jump at things when they are first mentioned...I just wanted to point out that BH's can finnally get BH armor. To me anyway, that seems good...better late than never.
As for the more health on the marks, did they make them hit harder too? I know some people have been wanting a slight difficulty dealing with NPC marks. I haven't seen for myself because well I'm not a BH anymore but "boss" marks looks like a promising thing at least at first glance.
aekeem
Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:42 am
#31
KyiasLightsun wrote:
aekeem wrote:
KyiasLightsun wrote:
It's content, and when you get content you don't complain about it....ESPECIALLY when it is something everyone has been wanting for a long time:
this is the same content we've always had. go get mission, launch droid, walk to waypoint, possibly drop camp or abort mission due to bugs, if not then kill, repeat as necessary. these are the exact same marks we've been fighting forever, they just finally changed a few numbers so they've got a bit more health. and the second half of your statement shows exactly why it is so ridiculous that it took this long to implement, people have been asking for this for a long time, now all of a sudden blixtev comes out of nowhere and does it over a weekend, and instead of being informed of this through reading player feedback he discovers this on his own. why didn't he know a LONG time ago that this was something that might need to be looked at? oh yeah, because apparently our feedback isn't important enough to read.
I'm not saying the devs jump at things when they are first mentioned...I just wanted to point out that BH's can finnally get BH armor. To me anyway, that seems good...better late than never.
As for the more health on the marks, did they make them hit harder too? I know some people have been wanting a slight difficulty dealing with NPC marks. I haven't seen for myself because well I'm not a BH anymore but "boss" marks looks like a promising thing at least at first glance.
i could get bh armor before....... what's the difference? now the market will be flooded with bh armor, weeeeee
isn't this what everyone was whining about hence we got the cu armor revamp? everyone wearing comp used to ruin everyone's gameplay somehow, now everyone wearing either bh armor or jedi robes doesn't bother anyone?
KyiasLightsun
Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:49 am
#32
aekeem wrote:
KyiasLightsun wrote:
aekeem wrote:
KyiasLightsun wrote:
It's content, and when you get content you don't complain about it....ESPECIALLY when it is something everyone has been wanting for a long time:
this is the same content we've always had. go get mission, launch droid, walk to waypoint, possibly drop camp or abort mission due to bugs, if not then kill, repeat as necessary. these are the exact same marks we've been fighting forever, they just finally changed a few numbers so they've got a bit more health. and the second half of your statement shows exactly why it is so ridiculous that it took this long to implement, people have been asking for this for a long time, now all of a sudden blixtev comes out of nowhere and does it over a weekend, and instead of being informed of this through reading player feedback he discovers this on his own. why didn't he know a LONG time ago that this was something that might need to be looked at? oh yeah, because apparently our feedback isn't important enough to read.
I'm not saying the devs jump at things when they are first mentioned...I just wanted to point out that BH's can finnally get BH armor. To me anyway, that seems good...better late than never.
As for the more health on the marks, did they make them hit harder too? I know some people have been wanting a slight difficulty dealing with NPC marks. I haven't seen for myself because well I'm not a BH anymore but "boss" marks looks like a promising thing at least at first glance.
i could get bh armor before....... what's the difference? now the market will be flooded with bh armor, weeeeeeisn't this what everyone was whining about hence we got the cu armor revamp? everyone wearing comp used to ruin everyone's gameplay somehow, now everyone wearing either bh armor or jedi robes doesn't bother anyone?
I'm not going to argue with you over it...since the CU I've seen plenty of changes and plenty of varieties...
aekeem
Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:54 am
#33
KyiasLightsun wrote:
aekeem wrote:
KyiasLightsun wrote:
aekeem wrote:
KyiasLightsun wrote:
It's content, and when you get content you don't complain about it....ESPECIALLY when it is something everyone has been wanting for a long time:
this is the same content we've always had. go get mission, launch droid, walk to waypoint, possibly drop camp or abort mission due to bugs, if not then kill, repeat as necessary. these are the exact same marks we've been fighting forever, they just finally changed a few numbers so they've got a bit more health. and the second half of your statement shows exactly why it is so ridiculous that it took this long to implement, people have been asking for this for a long time, now all of a sudden blixtev comes out of nowhere and does it over a weekend, and instead of being informed of this through reading player feedback he discovers this on his own. why didn't he know a LONG time ago that this was something that might need to be looked at? oh yeah, because apparently our feedback isn't important enough to read.
I'm not saying the devs jump at things when they are first mentioned...I just wanted to point out that BH's can finnally get BH armor. To me anyway, that seems good...better late than never.
As for the more health on the marks, did they make them hit harder too? I know some people have been wanting a slight difficulty dealing with NPC marks. I haven't seen for myself because well I'm not a BH anymore but "boss" marks looks like a promising thing at least at first glance.
i could get bh armor before....... what's the difference? now the market will be flooded with bh armor, weeeeee
isn't this what everyone was whining about hence we got the cu armor revamp? everyone wearing comp used to ruin everyone's gameplay somehow, now everyone wearing either bh armor or jedi robes doesn't bother anyone?
I'm not going to argue with you over it...since the CU I've seen plenty of changes and plenty of varieties...
i know but giving everyone easy access to what should be a unique armor is not a good idea, flooding the trade forums on every galaxy with hordes of attachments is not a good idea, encouraging everyone to pick up one profession to loot these attachments is not a good idea. the cu did bring a very small amount of diversity, why try and undermine the progress they've made with a silly patch like this?
Makkaio
Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:30 am
#34
Ekul05 wrote:
Makkaio wrote:
It's a amazing all the broad, sweeping generalizations that are made on these boards. First, not EVERYONE will be farming NPC bounties. Only MBH greater than level 75 even have access to the content. That's not EVERYONE as several posters have said. So stop blowing things out of proportion. Well, I never said everyone, I was asking originally who'd be doing NPC's vs. Jedi. Since you have to be a MBH to hunt jedi, and to get these boss mob's, I was directing it at the right folks.
Exactly. Your original posts and other postsare very constructive. I actually wasn't referring to you and should have been a little more clear. Sorry for the consfusion
Even to put together a full suit of bounty hunter armor is going to take WORK, timeand credits. Then, to put together another set of armor to sell? Even more work, time and credits. Not counting duplication of pieces and such. Sure, there will be trading and stuff, but that's what makes the market and the game interesting. Not to mention that bounty hunter armor isn't the best for hunting Jedi, so other than trophy armor. Why the huge fuss? Not going to take near as much time as you'd think. I'd be willing to wager that within 20-25 hunts you'd be pretty close to a full suit of schematics, or have a few duplicates you could trade. Since the schematics are limited use, you'd do alright with an armorsmith, as they can sell a few, for each full set you'd give them, and they'd make for you.
Well, like a nerd and before I even posted, I ran a random loot generator on just armor alone. Sure, some will get lucky, but it took 56 missions on my first run to get a full set of schems. It took 47 on my second. And 72 on my last. That's only armor loot, 10 separate pieces,andsupposing that you get an armor schem every mark, which, of course, you don't. Trading will definitely be a factor in the way to throw this armor together.
While hunting with my guild, I can grab 2 to 3AAs orCAsin an hour or so, depending on the rate we kill stuff and what we hunt. I have yet to see a report in any of these boards about a bounty hunter looting skill tapes any faster than that. Can they loot that many, sure, a TON more...I don't think so by the vary design of how our bounty missions are set up.
I like the fact that smugglers have another outlet through which to get their higher-end slicing components. Not that we should corner the market, but it will make things a bit easier on slicers to know their loot is out there. It is a great thing, it gives us a chance to slice again, and that's a benefit for everyone. I've got the smuggler as well as BH, so I'm in heaven right now, I can start openly slicing, and making some coin doing that !
Thenger
Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:56 am
#35
Yeah alot of getting the BH shem will be about luck. I did about 20 BH missons when I got home yesterday, almost none stop from the time I got home from work.
I got 5 peices of BH armor, and of those 5 I can use 3 of them. I got 3 right bicep's which mean I will need to try and trade them. And this is what I will be doing pretty much this whole weekend, if my wife lets me. 
And out of 5 or 6 BH in my guild only me and one other were doing these missions, the others didn't show much interest in them at all.
ZionHalcyon
Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:17 am
#36
OhBuggah wrote:
Equatis wrote:
I don't think so...
I mean - The loot is so amazing and plentiful SOE is saving us probably over 100 million credits a week for a regular NPC after NPC Bounty Hunter.
That means more money for better equipment to take out the real Jedi.
No one is going to pay millions of credits for the loot if it is "plentiful". CA, SEA's, smuggler toolkits will all be devalued if these npc marks continue to be very, very easy kills. Earlier I killed a boss mark while I answered the phone AFK. It dropped 2 smuggler tookits and a +6 Force Accuracy CA. That's ridiculous. These boss marks that drop the good stuff need to be the same difficulty along the lines of super battle droids or nightsister elders.
If it stays as it is, the market will be oversaturated and everything ... all the loot that non-BH's get from other mobs will be devalued and worthless.
Yes, yes, anyone following you posting in threads knows you want to r@pe people for every credit they are worth.
Now here, have a Jar of Foraged Berries I just looted off this Boss Mark and S-T-F-U.
Soft-Ice
Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:15 am
#37
Too easy to killl Boss mark level 82 and your are on AFK? What a bull. Even though you have macro running you will still have to plqy around your healing timer. I'm sure your level 82 was a bug.
I agree that NPC needs to be more challenging and difficult to kill
ogothmag
Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:23 am
#38
I really can't understand it?!
Why are ppl all so negative when something changes... everytime they keep complaining, and only see the bad side of it...
SOE JUST GAVE US SOME MORE CONTENT YOU ALL WERE CRYING ABOUT!!
It's no dark plan to get you all away from bounty hunting... maybe you look a bit too obsessive into your roleplay!
YOU'RE NOT ONE OF THE FETT'S, YOU ARE PLAYING A COMPUTERGAME!!!
Woke up?
Yes?
Good... now keep it going and enjoy the GAME!!!
Mist Hunters
Jedi_Xan
Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:32 am
#39
ogothmag wrote:
I really can't understand it?!
Why are ppl all so negative when something changes... everytime they keep complaining, and only see the bad side of it...
SOE JUST GAVE US SOME MORE CONTENT YOU ALL WERE CRYING ABOUT!!
It's no dark plan to get you all away from bounty hunting... maybe you look a bit too obsessive into your roleplay!
YOU'RE NOT ONE OF THE FETT'S, YOU ARE PLAYING A COMPUTERGAME!!!
Woke up?
Yes?
Good... now keep it going and enjoy the GAME!!!
uhm, I'm not complaining. I actually like it. The new mobs aren't insane hard to beat. I sometimes want to get online, and maybe only have 30 min to an hour to play. I want something quick and easy, so to speak.