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Thread: Cloak/Exploit questions? (Tanks will I get in trouble for this?)

Jadeddy
Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:56 am
#27


The above poster is correct, to the rest of you...CMN?



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maRRsTu
Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:35 pm
#28



IIA_Agent wrote:

An exploit is using a bug ingame to gain an advantage.

The Developers made cloak so it is untargetable, and unattackable. Therefore you would have reason to believe that the devs feel a cloaked Jedi should not be able to be attacked.

This Makes it clear that Attacking a Jedi while cloaked is an exploit. Due to the fact that the droid can still target a player, and attack a player that is not supposed to be attacked.

Training Mobs is considered harrasment based on the community standards, so draging mobs to a Jedi to be used to launch an area attack would be harrasment, and an exploit.

My post is based on Fact from the SOE terms of service agreement, from the descriptions of the powers, and the changes the devs made to the power. It is also based on the Communtity standards set forth by SOE dealing with Harrasment or other players.

Just because you feel something is not an exploit does not mean that it is not one.

SOE has given us tools in the form of TOS/community standards, to be able to judge if something is or is not an exploit.

Clear this is since it is a bug in the game, that is not intended, and is being used to gain an advantage over another player.







You do not need to target a Jedi To bomb droid it or AOE. You have your seeker droid to find out where he is. Targeting cloaked Jedi Is a BUG. Cloak like I said is not invinsibility on it just means you cant be seen or targeted. You are tricking a players mind so they cant see you they can use a droid to find their ruough location fire all around you attacking everything and hope a shot hits the target make a droid blow up in the general area. You sir are wrong.



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Orthell
Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:14 pm
#29



Eskie wrote:


IIA_Agent wrote:

An exploit is using a bug ingame to gain an advantage.

The Developers made cloak so it is untargetable, and unattackable. Therefore you would have reason to believe that the devs feel a cloaked Jedi should not be able to be attacked.

This Makes it clear that Attacking a Jedi while cloaked is an exploit. Due to the fact that the droid can still target a player, and attack a player that is not supposed to be attacked.

Training Mobs is considered harrasment based on the community standards, so draging mobs to a Jedi to be used to launch an area attack would be harrasment, and an exploit.

My post is based on Fact from the SOE terms of service agreement, from the descriptions of the powers, and the changes the devs made to the power. It is also based on the Communtity standards set forth by SOE dealing with Harrasment or other players.

Just because you feel something is not an exploit does not mean that it is not one.

SOE has given us tools in the form of TOS/community standards, to be able to judge if something is or is not an exploit.

Clear this is since it is a bug in the game, that is not intended, and is being used to gain an advantage over another player.





Actually, the devs said a cloaked Jedi should not be targetable. They did not say anything about not being attackable, however. The "not targetable" part automatically voids any single-target attacks since you are not supposed to see the Jedi. Area attacks on the other hand are just fired blindly into the general direction of a crowd of enemies and hit everything in the area - the one firing the shots does only aim at a general area. I would say area attacks on nearby mobs hurting the cloaked Jedi are fine.

Training is defined as drawing critters onto another player in order to have them attack said player. Just pulling some mobs next to a player is not training. Not an exploit either in my opinion.

Concerning the bomb droid I would only question how he was positioned next to a cloaked Jedi. Was it by "Follow Target"? Exploit since you dont know "Target" is there. Was it by just placing it on the ground where the seeker marked a waypoint, running away and detonating it on the waypoint? Fair game.

But the original poster asked if there were any official dev statements on those matters. There were no official statements so far.




I try not to mention that exploit, but people still use pets and droids to do it I've heard.







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