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Thread: The Jedi Census Phenomenon (anyone who thinks there are too many, read this)

Phinneus
Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:30 pm
#14






Quiet420 wrote:






Jimmies_SF wrote:
And we don't see millions of rank and file soldiers, we see like 100 a day (not counting other players), and 10 or so jedi. Or maybe I shouldn't say we. Maybe I should say, I don't see... maybe I'm a jedi magnet.... or maybe.... maybe they're in my head.





how many npc's have you seen in your entire time playing the game? what, 100 a day, 500, 1000? times how many days? and how much longer will you play?


I've killed tens of thousands of rank and file imperials, and untold hundreds ofthousands of other npc's.








Hmm according to the EU there were only a handful of Jedi left during this time. I know I would not consider 100 a day, 500, 1000 Jedi only a handful.


-Phinneus


Quiet420
Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:33 pm
#15






Phinneus wrote:



Hmm according to the EU there were only a handful of Jedi left during this time. I know I would not consider 100 a day, 500, 1000 Jedi only a handful.


-Phinneus






learn to read bro....100, 500, 1000 npc's...didn't say Jedi....and according to the EU there was nothing stating that there weren't more.

Quiet420
Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:34 pm
#16






Phinneus wrote:


Look. Just because a bunch of Nerds from England called themselves a Jedi does not mean that there should be overloaded populations of Jedi in the game.


-Phinneus






and there aren't...there are exactly the number there are supposed to be according to the SWG VEU

Qwad
Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:36 pm
#17



Quiet420 wrote:


Qwad wrote:



What the h3ll is your point seriously?

that there are as many Jedi as there are, and will be more, and that is the VEU....cannon and EU in no way are violated by that fact.





Haha then you're wrong sorry, go watch the movies. Only the movies have any relevence to me, trying to argue otherwise is very very futile you will never change my mind.





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Oikaleek
Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:37 pm
#18

Just as young Anakin Skywalker defined compassion as unconditional love one could also define religion as a way of life.


The Jedi order was a religious Order. They worshipped a deity (the Force) and served it in every aspect of their lives, just as a serious religious practictioner would in say, Christianity or Islam. Their core beliefs ofservitude and disciplineare all concepts based out of religious orders throughout Earth's history.


Quiet420
Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:38 pm
#19






Qwad wrote:


Haha then you're wrong sorry, go watch the movies. Only the movies have any relevence to me, trying to argue otherwise is very very futile you will never change my mind.





then you can throw out ALL the professions listed above, most of the weapons, armor, and items in the game, a large portion of the npc's and monsters, and many of the planets, and most of the areas on all the planets.


Jimmies_SF
Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:40 pm
#20


I could call a guy who cuts a woman in half a sorcerer because I don't understand it when she gets stuck back together and takes a bow. Han only relied on things he could touch and see, ie his blaster. He wouldn't have said that after shooting vaders palm 5 times now would he?


Aunt Beru cooked in front of us, you saw weapons (did they pop out of thin air?), and armor, you saw gammorean (the green pigs if my spelling is too off) with axes- wow, melee professions in the movies? whats a battle axe with a good blaster at your side? (leia got shot in the arm and was ok), architect? wonder who built all those buildings? Who sewed the clothes!!!!??? Wonder who programmed the medical droids, prolly someone with medical knowhow, and Ewoks were rangers.


As far as the EU stuff? I don't care. And you said yourself... "for all we know" That makes a great starter for any outlandish statement.


Sure they had to bend some stuff from the movies, like 1 shot doesn't equal a kill, for the sake of being a game, but I mean GOSH- as it stands most are going jedi and the rest will eventually have to to compete. Is that what you want? 100percent player base jedi?
Jimmies_SF
Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:47 pm
#21






Quiet420 wrote:






Jimmies_SF wrote:
And we don't see millions of rank and file soldiers, we see like 100 a day (not counting other players), and 10 or so jedi. Or maybe I shouldn't say we. Maybe I should say, I don't see... maybe I'm a jedi magnet.... or maybe.... maybe they're in my head.





how many npc's have you seen in your entire time playing the game? what, 100 a day, 500, 1000? times how many days? and how much longer will you play?


I've killed tens of thousands of rank and file imperials, and untold hundreds ofthousands of other npc's.








You don't seem to understand my point. Compared to what we see, like with our eyes, because I can'tsee the program that generates stupid- no AI- troops, if I look around a city (npc city that is) like 1 here and one there for a total of 4. Take a mission, thats 3. How many frikkin cities am I supposed to run through (different cities to boot), and how many missions am I supposed to take per day I log into this game to get to see millions of rank and file caliber troops?


Dude, jedi are all over the place. We only see a small slice of the pie and its heavily flavored with the force. Even if your whacko "for all we know" theory was correct there are too many running around for your "fits the cannon" jargon.


With your "we must allow all to be jedi, all must be jedi" mentality, you are acting like a lunatic jedi religious missionary, which is just too ironic to comment on.


Quiet420
Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:47 pm
#22






Oikaleek wrote:

Just as young Anakin Skywalker defined compassion as unconditional love one could also define religion as a way of life.


The Jedi order was a religious Order. They worshipped a deity (the Force) and served it in every aspect of their lives, just as a serious religious practictioner would in say, Christianity or Islam. Their core beliefs ofservitude and disciplineare all concepts based out of religious orders throughout Earth's history.








incorrect...the concept was based on earth religions, but Jedi were not a religious order, and the Jedi order was not a religion:


The Jedi Knights were an order of individuals who had the ability to touch and work alongside the Force.
The Force is an energy field that is generated by all living things and permeates the universe and all things in it.


As explained in the movie Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace, Jedi get their ability to understand the Force from symbiotic organisms within their bodies called midi-chlorians (an obvious play on mitochondrion and chloroplast). Also known as "the messengers of life," these organisms allow a Jedi to "hear the Force," and it is said that "without them life could not exist" (this statement appears to contradict the Expanded Universe, which depicts the Yuuzhan Vong as completely separate from the Force, but the discrepancy is explained late in the New Jedi Order series.). The higher the midi-chlorian count in their cells, the stronger the Force is with the particular individual. Their presence could be somehow sensed by other Jedi. Anakin Skywalker had a reading of over 20,000 which was even higher than Master Yoda's, leading many, most notably Qui-Gon Jinn, into believing Anakin to be the prophesied "Chosen One."


Phinneus
Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:48 pm
#23






Quiet420 wrote:






Qwad wrote:


Haha then you're wrong sorry, go watch the movies. Only the movies have any relevence to me, trying to argue otherwise is very very futile you will never change my mind.





then you can throw out ALL the professions listed above, most of the weapons, armor, and items in the game, a large portion of the npc's and monsters, and many of the planets, and most of the areas on all the planets.







Hmm. You are talking about the EU never saying there arent any more Jedi so who is to say the game is wrong. Okay. Using your logic I will ask you this question:


"The expanded universe never said that there were no pink talking bunnies. But yet I dont see any in the game. So you are saying if SOE added little pink bunnies that talk you would believe it to be Star Wars?"


-Phinneus

Qwad
Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:52 pm
#24



Quiet420 wrote:



Qwad wrote:


Haha then you're wrong sorry, go watch the movies. Only the movies have any relevence to me, trying to argue otherwise is very very futile you will never change my mind.


then you can throw out ALL the professions listed above, most of the weapons, armor, and items in the game, a large portion of the npc's and monsters, and many of the planets, and most of the areas on all the planets.






No your argument fails because it is not stated in the movies that they do not exist, but it is blatantly stated that the Jedi were all but wiped out in the movies. Case closed.





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The origins of the "nerf bat"
DomMantell
Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:54 pm
#25


TheMadCoder wrote:


Quiet420 wrote:

The percentages of religious affiliations (excluding atheists and non-respondents) were:

  • Christian: 94.0%
  • Muslim: 3.1%
  • Hindu: 1.1%
  • Jedi: 0.7%

I wouldn't exclude atheists and agnostics, as I'm one - if you called me, I'd sure as hell Jedi, just for sh1ts and giggles. I remember this, and it was just plain silly.



One of the main reasons that a lot of people had for listing themselves as "Jedi" wasn't to try & get Yoda's birthday off as a national holiday but to protest the fact that there was a religion question on the census form in the first place.
Phinneus
Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:56 pm
#26






DomMantell wrote:




TheMadCoder wrote:





Quiet420 wrote:



The percentages of religious affiliations (excluding atheists and non-respondents) were:



  • Christian: 94.0%
  • Muslim: 3.1%
  • Hindu: 1.1%
  • Jedi: 0.7%



I wouldn't exclude atheists and agnostics, as I'm one - if you called me, I'd sure as hell Jedi, just for sh1ts and giggles. I remember this, and it was just plain silly.






One of the main reasons that a lot of people had for listing themselves as "Jedi" wasn't to try & get Yoda's birthday off as a national holiday but to protest the fact that there was a religion question on the census form in the first place.





You are wrong. The nerds worship George Lucas. They eat sleep and breath all that is star wars. That my friend is the facts.


-Phinneus


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