Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: IM REALLY PISSED!....
warrenbassist
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:01 am
#14
Vecasius wrote:
Another respec who thinks killing jedi will be as easy as pve on dant...
Look... To be a successfull bh you need to be a good pvper to begin with, that takes practise. You also need good gear, that takes money.
Then just read the forums and go trial and error. And i do have to stress a good weapon is a must. The 15k unsliced carbs, rifles and pistols of the bazaar or vendors wont cut it in pvp. Esp not against Jedi. Go out and loot the tissues/components to make a nice weapon or check out the tradeforums and buy something deadly. That will cost you a few mil thou..
Its like Big DaddyBobba said "BHing aint easy"
It takes far more skill to be a BH than a Jedi. We have to buy the right foods know the best attacks and have to know what Jedi template we are fighting when the fight basically begins so we can adapt strategy. And we still may not even win.... Gods help us if a REAL BH ever goes Jedi.
RJrobot
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:05 am
#15
XGustaX wrote:
okay. I dont know whats wrong but everytime i go against a jedi Padawan,knight, or master i always end up loosing! This is really starting to piss me off cuz i can never win and its disgruging from hunt them. What the heck do i have to do to win geez im a MCM MBH and pistoleer xxx4. I use root shot i mis so much! i use debuffs all of them and they hardly do anything they just keep healing nothing they never waste action or mind! What the Heck im I suppose to do! tell me
I suggest learning to play your profession
Draxie
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:12 am
#16
*jedi are more protected as this is the main profession/advertising of SWG "now you can become a jedi too" and the grind is long (not taking the 3-week-from padawan to full template-respecjedi in this discussion) and that means: longerlasting accounts and that means: more money for SOE. It's just simple marketing.
*and yes, the odds are against us, that's why you should adept to your target; take full advantages of his weaknesses, get good armor, good weapons, BE food and visit a smuggler from time to time.
Message Edited by Draxie on 07-29-2005 01:21 PM
Vecasius
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:17 am
#17
I was a hardcoreBH pre CU for a long time (Averaged 2-3 kills per day).Still got me a BH toon but i dont hunt as often these days.Im a MLS/Mdef and working on a second Jedi Toon (still undecided)
Iv noticed that unless your a bragging loudmouth you dont get hunted much. Iv only been attacked a few times, on those occations it was pretty much LS Sodomi for the BH.
The chasing crystals/Pearls CAs and LS resources is as much of apain with Jedi as it is chasing components and exceptional weapons for a BH toon.
In the end its the same game just 2 different sides. Id say its no easier to become a successfull pvp ing Jedi then it is becoming a Successfull BH.
cchabot
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:35 am
#18
Heh as you said your self, your a MBH/MCM, so you have very little ranged acc (compared to a MBH/M*some ranged*), so its no wonder you miss some shots is it? Can't have best of both worlds!
You could try to compensate by buying / looting some ranged + weapon specific acc ca's, try to get some ranged /weapon specific speed ca's too ... Should help a lot considering your template.
Make sure you realise a Jedi's LS dmg is energy, and get a good PSG (with ranged acc + good energy protection) and armor that has >7000 energy protection
Then get foods ... you can make 4.3k health with current food stacking+booster blue and have almost limitless mind and action
Get some good ranged acc food too while your at it, and pikatta pie
Get some of the better enhancers you can get for your CM side of things, and a good weapon too ofcourse
Then practise a bit .. and i'm sure you will see your winnings go up
Yep, a Jedi saying tactics ... But if i employ 2 years of experiance, all the above tricks i am able too, lots of looted weapon components, looted CA's, etc ... Shouldn't i win against a Noob BH who doesn't do any of these things, every time?
MrDoppa
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:52 am
#19
Tetengo-Omega wrote:
First of all, calm down, if you're all jumpy you won't be able to do a thing against a jedi. Second of all learn your professions, duel jedi or others and find out what does the most damage etc. Find out what states you try works the best and make sure you heal when you need to, you can't just go in shooting you have to buff yourself and try and take them by surprise, because if not theyll either get a way or kill you because they themselves have time to buff, it's not that hard to take a jedi, if you know what you're doing.
For both of our professions, straight skills aint gonna get it done. We have both have had to learn how to use our toons. You may not want to hear that, but it is what it is.
Equatis
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:54 am
#20
Almostninemonths ago I left SWG.
When I left I had mastered the Bounty Hunter profession. This, as some will remember, when it was a requirement to have Master Sout and Master Marksman. I threw a little bit of medic in there. During my last few months I regrinded to a Master Doctor and Master Teras Kasi as I believed the Bounty Hunter profession was a joke back then.
I just came back from hibernation and reactivated my account. I respec'd back into my old Master Bounty Hunter profession and this time picked Master Rifleman.
You can imagine my surprise with the entire Combat Upgrade. The game was very different for me. What impressed me was to see the level of balance that was implemented into the game. I watched many players fighting Jedi's at Dantooine and lasting for a very long time and in some cases wearing the Jedi out.
I started reading the Bounty Hunter forums to pick up on tips and tricks. I also purchased a decent but not amazing T-21 rifle and some decent Composite armor. After that, I headed to Dantooine and for almost a week I was dueling people to gain some knowledge of PVP and how to work with the new combat upgrade.
After PVPing for a week I started getting a lot better. I invested time in researching foods and trying them out on PVP. Eventually I started doing amazing in PVP and incapping almost every opponent that tried me.
Now for my opinion on the the focus of this whole thread...
From what little knowledge I have, I think it's safe to say that you're obviously not going to kill everyone of your marks. While the payout is good, a lot of Bounty Hunter's seem to think that the payout is certain, sadly it's not. In the time it may take me to track down a Jedi and properly setup and fight him and have him run away when his force runs out I could have completed four or five 30k missions.
Recently I was able to afford a 50% armor break on my Mabari armor that has 8102 protection against energy. I've noticed that it is much, much easier to do battle with medium/medium high templates as this is where they really seem to hurt you.
So far I think the Bounty Hunter profession is excellent although like many other professions, it needs some work. I even don't mind not having the names not listed as I never cared before. It has come a long way since I last played about a year ago.
If there is anything you should complain abotu, it would be this...
1. And Akyrad droid can locate your target on every single planet except Kashyeek and reports there are too many "life forms" on Kashyeek. I find it odd that one droid can search over ten planets and locate a target but it cannot pinpoint a location on one specific planet.
2. If you are on Kashyeek and your target leaves the planet and then you launch a Akyrad/Seek droid, it will tell you that your targets signature was not found on Kashyeek... This is somewhat funny if you contrast it with #1.
MrDoppa
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:57 am
#21
warrenbassist wrote:
Vecasius wrote:
Another respec who thinks killing jedi will be as easy as pve on dant...
Look... To be a successfull bh you need to be a good pvper to begin with, that takes practise. You also need good gear, that takes money.
Then just read the forums and go trial and error. And i do have to stress a good weapon is a must. The 15k unsliced carbs, rifles and pistols of the bazaar or vendors wont cut it in pvp. Esp not against Jedi. Go out and loot the tissues/components to make a nice weapon or check out the tradeforums and buy something deadly. That will cost you a few mil thou..
Its like Big DaddyBobba said "BHing aint easy"
It takes far more skill to be a BH than a Jedi. We have to buy the right foods know the best attacks and have to know what Jedi template we are fighting when the fight basically begins so we can adapt strategy. And we still may not even win.... Gods help us if a REAL BH ever goes Jedi.
Most of them do. lol
JangoFett100
Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:04 am
#22
XGustaX wrote:
okay. I dont know whats wrong but everytime i go against a jedi Padawan,knight, or master i always end up loosing! This is really starting to piss me off cuz i can never win and its disgruging from hunt them. What the heck do i have to do to win geez im a MCM MBH and pistoleer xxx4. I use root shot i mis so much! i use debuffs all of them and they hardly do anything they just keep healing nothing they never waste action or mind! What the Heck im I suppose to do! tell me
Well, I was just told last night that MBH/MCM is way too powerful, and i need to drop it to prove my skill. I tried to explain that whatever advantage the jedi might have is probably offset by my equipment. So my advice is to invest some time/money into your account. You lose a lot of weapon speed by being a combat medic. Offset it with some tapes. If your dots aren't sticking invest in some CM tapes. And please make sure you are wearing decent armor.
Dlek_Krego
Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:58 am
#23
XGustaX wrote:okay. I dont know whats wrong but everytime i go against a jedi Padawan,knight, or master i always end up loosing! This is really starting to piss me off cuz i can never win and its disgruging from hunt them. What the heck do i have to do to win geez im a MCM MBH and pistoleer xxx4. I use root shot i mis so much! i use debuffs all of them and they hardly do anything they just keep healing nothing they never waste action or mind! What the Heck im I suppose to do! tell me
the one thing that most would say, BH's included is that you should "Hunt SMARTER, not HARDER."
For example....
A few days ago, we had a guild meeting in our city, and after the meeting, a few of us Jedi figured why not have a duel for fun on our guild hall. Well, we were dueling along, and I incapped the first, and started working on the second (it was two against me)... well, right after the first one was incapped, I happen to look over and see he was now a corpse... I got defensive, because I knew I did not DB him, and that everyone watching would immediately think I did.... Come to find out, that Jedi had a BH after him for awhile, and was just biding his time, and saw a perfect chance. Before we even knew he was there, he was paid and on his way to the shuttleport. That was what is called hunting SMARTER, not HARDER.
Message Edited by Dlek_Krego on 07-29-2005 06:01 AM
mindspat
Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:11 am
#24
XGustaX wrote:
okay. I dont know whats wrong but everytime i go against a jedi Padawan,knight, or master i always end up loosing! This is really starting to piss me off cuz i can never win and its disgruging from hunt them. What the heck do i have to do to win geez im a MCM MBH and pistoleer xxx4. I use root shot i mis so much! i use debuffs all of them and they hardly do anything they just keep healing nothing they never waste action or mind! What the Heck im I suppose to do! tell me
You need to learn how to play.
Jimmies_SF
Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:12 am
#25
Tetengo-Omega wrote:
First of all, calm down, if you're all jumpy you won't be able to do a thing against a jedi. Second of all learn your professions, duel jedi or others and find out what does the most damage etc. Find out what states you try works the best and make sure you heal when you need to, you can't just go in shooting you have to buff yourself and try and take them by surprise, because if not theyll either get a way or kill you because they themselves have time to buff, it's not that hard to take a jedi, if you know what you're doing.
I agree. Best way to be calm is get experience with it. For whatever reason, my first few fights I was so antsy my fingers shook and my heart pounded like I was jumpin' off a cliff or something. Take missions, with the expecation of NOT WINNING. Do that and you have nothing to lose. Take a stopwatch and try to top your last time for staying alive against a jedi. Eventually you'll have two things going for you, 1) you'll have a lot of good experience and know what to do during certain situations. and prolly most of all 2) You be cool as a frikkin cucumber.
When you finally do win, man its gonna be sweet.
Ulrek_Oden
Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:15 am
#26
I am hoping the new NPC 'Boss Marks' help me to learn how to fight jedi players...
I agree with the poster who said they could do 5 30K missions in the time it takes to do one successful jedi mission...
It seems like IMHO you should get a bit more money for killing a PC Jedi... also concidering all the expensive weapons, armor and foods you need...