Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: A Bounty Hunter Experience.
Look, you have to remember, people playing the jedi arent super human at one with the force. Just like me and you at some point they will be grinding and hunting, in other words busy with something. And while they are doing that if you plan it right you can suprise them.
Yes the can sit in their houses, and of course there are times when they will probably notice you comming, and be ready for it. But if you think more about what will a human player have most of his attention on, and when this happens at what point would be the most oppertune to attack, you will do alot better.
it is frustrating sometimes when you scream off from naboo hoping to find a jedi with his pants down ready for you till crit shot up his ass untill he burps blood, and you find a jedi fully buffed stood ready, or in is house. But well that's what a BH is all about isn't it. And it's funny waiting for the right time is pretty much the standard in any hitman/assassin/BH type of book/movie/anime/manga etc etc etc.
As a MBH rifleman, I find it quite satisfying to be lay with my rifle under cover waiting for the right time, just like a sniper. I'm playing a BH rifleman, and the way I'm playing is near to playing out a sniper as I could think of.
Yes the exploits annoy me. And yes I think things are alittle more afield than just "well you're fightign a jedi what do you expect". As wqe are playing in set parameters set by the game designers, and the parameters set are very confined to us as to compaired to jedi, same old arguement really.
But comming full circle, you CAN suprisea human player, radar or not. It just may be a long wait.
If you don't want to find a jedi and wait around, then BH hunting jedi's just isn't for you.
There may be unbalanced issues, but only being effective when you have suprised a jedi, and attacked when he is weak or preoccupied seems pretty believeable and more true to being a BH to me.
I know you may want a wildwest get off your horse and gun a jedi down type of gamestate.
But quite simply it isn't going to happen, too many did this with noobs. That time is over. let it go....
DarkReshi wrote:
Freaken, Your missing the point. FIRST STRIKE, this will knock a opponent off gaurd making them vulnurable. If you ask for the fight thats means the jedi will be focused, attentive and confident. Something a BH trys to weaken and gain the upper hand. And im sure some do that but many i know dont like that way. It takes the fun out. This game is Supposed to be like Star Wars, Had Boba/Janga Fett Walked up to a jedi and said, I would like to kill you, Can you come out and play. And then the jedi locks his door and says no. What is this the 3 little pigs. "Not by the hairs on my chinny chin chin" (the jedi thinks in his head) ". Dont get me wrong a jedi has the right to hide in his house. But in the real SWG-"Beep Beep, Click Clickity Click, Ping.....
Missile ARMED" "Boom" his house would be now more. or more discreetly. DING DONG, u have a package or a delivery, and Bam. Something to that nature. Altough i know that would create complications
Now i now what ur saying about some BH, there just in it for the quick kill. But alot of my guild is not. Of course some times it calls for such actions, running up and destroying ur target with out notice. But most of the time you should study ur opponent. But u cant do that because of radar and so many other things. Just saying a new stalk option would be nice.
Do you know how many blues that I fight close to EVERY day?? I dont know if you realize what all is at your disposal in order to watch me. You can actually have the examine window open for over 400m. You may not have eyes on me, but there are ways in order to watch a jedi from a distance. I am not going to sit here and listen to you guys whine about how you cant do your jobs effectively, when I see Full Template Ex-Knights dying on a daily basis to bounty hunters.
The ONLY times, I have NOT died to a bounty hunter is when he would not do the surprise attack.
In my first post, I explained how MANY bounty hunters dont even go for the surprise attack, and I gave examples. NOW, lets go over different things that would be considered a surprise attack.
1) In the middle of a fight. It is very difficult to watch radar, overhead map when you have npc's/pc's/creatures to kill. Its even harder when Jedi is alone.
2) While he is at any starport. If he is getting ready to shuttle out, hit him when he is looking at the ticket terminal or starship terminal. BAM surprise attack.
3) At anytime that he may not being attentive. Talking to friends, buying something from a vendor, buying something from the bazaar.
Basically, you need to experiment instead of whine. Just like you all say to a Jedi that whines because he got beat by you. You always tell him to "Learn your profession". There does NOT need a stalk skill.....you will just get upset when you lose to a Jedi when you used it....you will want to make it stronger. Hell...you have bounty hunters asking for jedi to be locked out of player structures, and unable to logout AS SOON AS THE MISSION IS TAKEN.
I learn my profession. You learn your profession. I will guarantee, EVERY Jedi / BH fight would be a tremendous sight to see. I am working on my part. Are you working on yours??
I agree with everything you have to offer Reshi, Bounty Hunter has become a joke and the developers know it. The game is NOT balanced. Look at it from the developers point of view,
DEV CONFERENCE:
Dev 1: How can we make SWG a more popular game a raise our number of subscribers to make more money
Dev 2: Well what can we add to make it more flashy and fun?
Dev 1: Well we could make jedi status100 times easier to attain.. We could make the missions easier and make it harder for BH to catch the them..
Dev 2: Wont that make the BH's mad?
Dev 1: Yah, but as long as we keep the jedi happy we can get more and more subscribing noobs who are amazed and impressed by the uberness of jedi.
Ultimately.. If BH can kill jedi easily.. Jedi get pissed.. if jedi get pissed, they quit. If they quit SOE loses money.
BH is lame now.. its not about tracking a target and getting the drop on them to kill them efficiently. Its about how many jedi you can duel in one day.. thats all the hunt is now.. a prolonged duel.. the element of surprise is gone.. the jedi can prep.. Also making pay out on the terminals random is lame as well.. 9 out of 10 missions is a full template.. new BHs are discouraged and give up because they cannot win. BH needs some of the fun put back into it.
Freaken, Your Again missing the point. The Devs are making it easier and eaiser for people to become jedi, and much easier to fend off or spot BH. You a jedi, most BH know what im talking about, how can i expect you too. And Your Shuttleport/Starport idea has been tryed and has about a 5% chance of succeeding. By the time you reach them, they have either launched or arer picking the planet to launch ina bout 5 secs. Dont know about you but i dont travel from planet to planet in 5 seconds or less. And if a Blue dot appears there. All jedi are suspicious and will launch no matter if its a freind or not, they see blue they "jet" literally. And coming from a jedi, the whining comment means nothing. And if you can read, It is not whining it is simply stating the facts and laygin them out there, So take your "All BH ideas are stupid and pointless" attitude with you on your way out.
Your Acting as if Every Bh is connected, and i know the post ur refering to, just because one BH has a crack pot idea, doesnt mean we all got together and agree that he should post. So dont quote anothers words, and assume we have all said that should happen. As for my idea, i bet 9/10 BH would agree that something needs to be done about Jedi knowing our whereabouts.
And next time, read the entire thing. Do you think its right that a new BH should have to only hunt full temps no it isnt. And dont give me that ther are padawans on the terms also,crap. Because frankly they arent. Myabe 1/10 are padawans, and thats a maybe.
Message Edited by DarkReshi on 08-04-2005 03:21 AM
Message Edited by DarkReshi on 08-04-2005 03:28 AM