Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Why there will NEVER be the mass of Jedi you all fear.
Genezer
Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:25 am
#14
some one said that why should jedi lose xp since noone else does. if i remember correctly(prolly not) but how come the jedi's robe(which is there version of our comp but even more uber) doesnt decay when they die at least something of theirs should decay like maybe their XP!!!!! novel idea.
RozhlokLightningskull
Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:38 am
#15
SabbathChild wrote:
They should have an xp penalty because Jedi are supposed to be rare. Most jedi and wannabe jedi seem to forget this point a lot. It's not supposed to be like the other professions in any way except for a skill tree system.
Oh no... Jedi wannabe's fully agree that Jedi be rare. Just as long as there is nothing preventing them from being Jedi themselves. /rollseyes
This has been a common theme in SWG (and probably most MMOs). Seems people like things to be rare, but, get upset when they can't get the rare items themselves. Its very humorous. You see it here with Mandalorian armor. I love it that people are so mad because the DWB is too hard. And I love it that in only 3.5 weeks one helmet has been crafted on the Live servers.
SabbathChild
Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:49 am
#16
RozhlokLightningskull wrote:Oh no... Jedi wannabe's fully agree that Jedi be rare. Just as long as there is nothing preventing them from being Jedi themselves. /rollseyes
Good point.
Fugawi
Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:22 pm
#17
Apparently... the masses do want to play SWG to become Jedi.. some here seem to think that everyone else is wrong for wanting to play a game of MANY Jedi.
When really their main argument against masses of jedi is that its a game "They" wouldn't want to play.
Well.. I offer you the same argument you are offering Jedi in "your" version of the game...
DONT PLAY IT.
You seem to be comfortable saying "I wouldn't want to be a Jedi" so your not one.... yet you are fine with telling Jedi how they should play this game with their 15$ a month.
This comes back to .. Dont play if you don't like it.... You feel forced to play a certain way because of someone elses class being "better" then yours.. quit, just as you want the Jedi to do.
Dont presume to try to force your beliefs and preferences on another person... the
"I want my game this way crap is for ten year olds"
Be a force enhanced BH and get some better accuracy and then you'll land some shots.. or die trying.
Domepiece === Bria
Varanus Komodoensis === Chilastra
Quinn The-Eskimo === Scylla
SkepticalJS
Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:53 pm
#18
Bajonett wrote:
EXPERIENCE REQUIREMENTS !!!
I guess you can read the way in 2-3 months, yesa lot will dabble.
But to become the Master Jedi you all fear, one has to rip up
Milliards ofa combat-styleXP Class. All whilst BH, LD, and creastures
and other pick on them.
What happens on TC2 is testing with all Jedi who want, from all
Servers, its not the Life experience you get next week on the servers.
So im sure no mass jedi rundown on the whole game.
Maybe a lot FS-Enhanced Ones, but thats calculated.
Please calm down.
Actually, this is the same logic that the Devs used when deciding on professions being the key to unlocking your FS slot.
Do not ever underestimate the amount of time and trouble people will go to to get what they want. And most people will want to be PVP gods that the Jedi will be.
Skep
DayWalkerRori
Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:09 pm
#19
Well I see it this way...
Jedi try to justify them getting all this Revamping and 2 total updates targeting them by saying shyt like "80% of all players want to be a Jedi"
THEN
They say stuff like this..."Why Skill loss?" "We need to be powerfull!!" "Dont worry there never will be mass Jedi in this game"
So, which is it?? if 80% of all players want to be Jedi..Doesnt that make you beleve there will be 1000s of 1000s of Jedi on the Servers or if there will never be Mass Jedi..Then explain to me why so few players need Revamps and 2 Updates totally for them before other Professions that have been waiting for MONTHS & MONTHS like BH & Smugglers?
Its just like when they bring the EU into play..They think they should be Luke & Vader but, a BH cant be like the Fetts??? Truth is they only look to the EU when it can give them some kind of advantage..Plain and Simple....
Message Edited by DayWalkerRori on 06-18-2004 06:11 PM
lifeisdeath
Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:34 pm
#20
so no xp loss, robes dont decay, their weapons dont decay, auto rez, complete blocking (with out even defense on robes yet), increased crystal drops.
WHY ARE THEY SUPER POWERFUL??
WHAT THE **edit** HAPPENED TO RISK vs REWARD?!?!?!?
this is now NO risk ALL reward.
ok JustG. now, HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE THE ONES KEEPING JEDI IN CHECK?
WHAT MAGICAL SYSTEM WILL THERE BE FOR US TO KEEP THEM IN CHECK?
BY THE TIME IT COMES FOR US THEY WILL ALL BE MASTERS!!!
NO SKILL LOSS?!?!? CAN ANY DEV EXPLAIN THE REASONING FOR THIS?
LukeBorgman
Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:44 pm
#21
Too late!
There already are too many Jedi.
A few weeks ago, as part of my personal response to this ongoing degradation of a game that I really enjoy, I've started a new BH character. (I will add it to my sig. after I master it this weekend; just half of Investigation 4 to go.) I see Jedi everywhere already. Even around the BH terminals in Kaadara.
There will be hundreds (maybe thousands) more in each galaxy over the next 6+ weeks before Publish 10. Talk to people. Everyone is rushing to finish their grind and there are already too many.
There will be 200 Force-Ranked Jedi on every server, right? 100 on each side. (...at all times! One can slack off and another will take his place.) That sounds like too many to me. ...not even counting all the thousands of unranked Jedi.
Our only hope is if the cap is lowered to like 5 and unranked Jedi can be effectively beaten down to the point they quit the profession-that-should-not-exist and return to real characters that fit in the game like a balanced part of a MMORPG, instead of a whole server full of players who all want to be a very clearly, developer-created dog-pile to be King of the Hill what seems to be the one true profession(s). That means everyone else is their servant. I don't pay $15 a month to be anyone's servant. There can be no real combat balance while there are Jedi in the game.
soulwooky
Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:37 pm
#22
well i guess the loose FS standing what ever the hell that means but damn at least they could have all this info in one place i am sure it wont compensate for loosing he xp loss at death
"Force Ranked Jedi are forced overt all the time, which means they are never safe and will always be a target of Bounty Hunters and FR Jedi of the opposite faction. Thats where they get their XP from - - and they also loose FR rank in greater values when they get killed by non-Jedi. That means they will be hunted quite a bit and won't be running around without any tethers whatsoever."
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=GCW&message.id=201087#M201087 last two lines of TH post
"Force Ranked Jedi are forced overt all the time, which means they are never safe and will always be a target of Bounty Hunters and FR Jedi of the opposite faction. Thats where they get their XP from - - and they also loose FR rank in greater values when they get killed by non-Jedi. That means they will be hunted quite a bit and won't be running around without any tethers whatsoever."
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=GCW&message.id=201087#M201087 last two lines of TH post
socballer33
Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:58 pm
#23
I always wonder if things would be different is Holocronwas stillaround. I know he still helps sometimes, but not like before.
Taerryn
Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:20 pm
#24
lifeisdeath wrote:
their weapons dont decay
The lightsaber itself may not decay, but the crystals and pearls inside still do.
lifeisdeath
Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:46 pm
#26
Taerryn wrote:
The lightsaber itself may not decay, but the crystals and pearls inside still do.
hahah, wow, im so relieved. out of all of those this is all you have? so do they need to pay the weaponsmith to make them new weapons? so wait, they can get their powerful weapons for free?