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Thread: (TANKS) im banned from most citys

Berdelsan
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:08 am
#14



Eskie wrote:


Berdelsan wrote:
Its just plain stupid that its possible... Im also banned from most of the cities on our server even though im not Bh with Berdel anymore.

It doesent help anything, only make life more difficult for the BH cause if your target is in a town you have been banned from you CAN get there. You have to spend alot of time getting there and getting back on your bike when you could have just shuttled there if you wasent banned.

I feel that its grief to a professions and not protecting your own cause thats not what it does. It doesent offer protection at all. It makes life worse thats all.



Lowering a BHs mobility means he cannot follow the Jedi as efficiently - same reason BH speeders are a prime target for Saber Throws before an escape. Its only griefing if you ban a player for having a MBH tag in the bio or showing a Novice BH title. If you ban him after he actually attacked a Jedi resident within city limits its slowing down future attacks.




As i said, it does not prevent me from killing the jedi it just makes it harder/more annoying/difficult/whatever.

I think city banning should be removed from the game cause it doesent serve any good whatsoever. Banning people from buildings is a different matter. Or perhaps you should be able to use the shuttle but not everything else in town.. i dont know.. but i think something should be done



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Berdelsan
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:12 am
#15


Eskie wrote:


Berdelsan wrote:


Eskie wrote:


Berdelsan wrote:
Its just plain stupid that its possible... Im also banned from most of the cities on our server even though im not Bh with Berdel anymore.

It doesent help anything, only make life more difficult for the BH cause if your target is in a town you have been banned from you CAN get there. You have to spend alot of time getting there and getting back on your bike when you could have just shuttled there if you wasent banned.

I feel that its grief to a professions and not protecting your own cause thats not what it does. It doesent offer protection at all. It makes life worse thats all.



Lowering a BHs mobility means he cannot follow the Jedi as efficiently - same reason BH speeders are a prime target for Saber Throws before an escape. Its only griefing if you ban a player for having a MBH tag in the bio or showing a Novice BH title. If you ban him after he actually attacked a Jedi resident within city limits its slowing down future attacks.




As i said, it does not prevent me from killing the jedi it just makes it harder/more annoying/difficult/whatever.

I think city banning should be removed from the game cause it doesent serve any good whatsoever. Banning people from buildings is a different matter. Or perhaps you should be able to use the shuttle but not everything else in town.. i dont know.. but i think something should be done



Exactly that is the point. You try it once, and you will have a harder time doing it the next time. More time involvement per Jedi for you means less Jedi killed over a given period of time




AND THATS WHY I FEEL THAT ITS BEING USED AS A TOOL TO GRIEF OUR PROFESSION

Message Edited by Berdelsan on 07-29-2005 01:12 PM



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Eskie
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:14 am
#16



Berdelsan wrote:

Eskie wrote:


Berdelsan wrote:


Eskie wrote:


Berdelsan wrote:
Its just plain stupid that its possible... Im also banned from most of the cities on our server even though im not Bh with Berdel anymore.

It doesent help anything, only make life more difficult for the BH cause if your target is in a town you have been banned from you CAN get there. You have to spend alot of time getting there and getting back on your bike when you could have just shuttled there if you wasent banned.

I feel that its grief to a professions and not protecting your own cause thats not what it does. It doesent offer protection at all. It makes life worse thats all.



Lowering a BHs mobility means he cannot follow the Jedi as efficiently - same reason BH speeders are a prime target for Saber Throws before an escape. Its only griefing if you ban a player for having a MBH tag in the bio or showing a Novice BH title. If you ban him after he actually attacked a Jedi resident within city limits its slowing down future attacks.




As i said, it does not prevent me from killing the jedi it just makes it harder/more annoying/difficult/whatever.

I think city banning should be removed from the game cause it doesent serve any good whatsoever. Banning people from buildings is a different matter. Or perhaps you should be able to use the shuttle but not everything else in town.. i dont know.. but i think something should be done



Exactly that is the point. You try it once, and you will have a harder time doing it the next time. More time involvement per Jedi for you means less Jedi killed over a given period of time




AND THATS WHY I FEEL THAT ITS BEING USED AS A TOOL TO GRIEF OUR PROFESSION

Message Edited by Berdelsan on 07-29-2005 01:12 PM




Only if you get banned before doing anything - if youre banned after actually causing harm to a resident, its your fault. I dont want people causing harm to residents in my city, so you get a ban after you do it. It will be more effort for you to cause harm again.



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Berdelsan
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:19 am
#17

Our profession is about causing harm, i do what my profession allows me to do. Thats my job. Im doing nothing wrong, im just playing my professions like its supposed to be. But not all people see it that way and the system allows them to grief us for whatever reason they have.

I think its wrong.. Perhaps you should be banned from every city for being "template pending"? hehe

No seriously, no other profession gets banned for being what they are. BH should not be banned from a city for being BH and hunt jedi just as chef should not be banned for making food

Message Edited by Berdelsan on 07-29-2005 01:25 PM



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Eskie
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:26 am
#18



Berdelsan wrote:
Our profession is about causing harm, i do what my profession allows me to do. Thats my job. Im doing nothing wrong, im just playing my professions like its supposed to be. But not all people see it that way and the system allows them to grief us for whatever reason they have.

I think its wrong.. Perhaps you should be banned from every city for being "template pending"? hehe

Message Edited by Berdelsan on 07-29-2005 01:20 PM




"Template pending" is not causing harm to anybody, and if you choose to attack a Jedi in a city its your fault. Talk about choosing the best location and time for your first strike.
A city has every right to ban everybody causing harm to their residents. You knew you would make enemies when picking up BH, right?



Eskona Runningstar
12pt Master Doctor - Master Riflewoman
Light Jedi Padawan
-ERI- medical supplies CLOSED

Left to explore new galaxies far, far away
after this galaxy had been enhanced far too much for her taste
SpringheelJack
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:28 am
#19

Yep mate , this auto banning its nuts.


Got my first mark last night since they changed it to anonymous jedi.

Target on Lok so shuttled there. Launched seeker and got the target not on-line but still had a wp. for the mission.


Shuttled to the city and went tothe house that the w.p. was in.

Had someone follow me from the shuttleport yelling BH SCUM the whole time, then after I went into the house with no one inside it they kicked me out


So I went back to the shuttleport with them following me yelling the whole time, was weird since we were the only ones in the city.


So I figure it was their alt or something and they had justswitched right when I got to Lok.


Had my Warmaster tag up. I could have been a legitimate shopper I suppose .....
cchabot
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:29 am
#20






Berdelsan wrote:
Our profession is about causing harm, i do what my profession allows me to do. Thats my job. Im doing nothing wrong,



Sure .. like a hitman's job is to kill, a BH's job is to hunt


But no one says it has to be made easy for you! Your purpose is a negative one (to kill someone, cause xp loss, forced pvp), so don't be supprised by a negative reaction


What .. your expected them to line up by the BH terminals and say "I'm brian! Pick me !"


I find it especially funny that you say "All Jedi have crafter alts that make the best ...". Sure i won't fault you for doing your job, but we have the right to refuse any customer don't we? Just doing our job too ... *grins*





Esta
Jedi Knight
Sunfall Rebels Chimaera


Greywulf0
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:33 am
#21






Oblox wrote:
Banning BH that hunt your jedi is just called protecting your own, sorry but thats the way it is.

Some people dont mind and dont do it but its a perfectly valid tactic, if you lose access to vendors then that is the consequences of your actions which you must accept.





QFE


I once led a BH on a chase across 5 planets and 10 starports. I finally got bored and went to the city that I reside in. I waited a few minutes, and sure enough, in shuttles the BH. Instant city ban, then I logged off and went to sleep.


It is the only consequence that a BH can face for a PvP action that they initiate. I have also banned all the BHs that have ever hunted me from my shops, since there is no way that I'll let them buy my stims.


"blah blah blah, you knew what you were getting into before you became a jedi, blah blah blah"


Well, BHs should know what they are getting into if they chase a jedi to the jedi's city. Works both ways.






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Berdelsan
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:36 am
#22



Eskie wrote:


Berdelsan wrote:
Our profession is about causing harm, i do what my profession allows me to do. Thats my job. Im doing nothing wrong, im just playing my professions like its supposed to be. But not all people see it that way and the system allows them to grief us for whatever reason they have.

I think its wrong.. Perhaps you should be banned from every city for being "template pending"? hehe

Message Edited by Berdelsan on 07-29-2005 01:20 PM




"Template pending" is not causing harm to anybody, and if you choose to attack a Jedi in a city its your fault. Talk about choosing the best location and time for your first strike.
A city has every right to ban everybody causing harm to their residents. You knew you would make enemies when picking up BH, right?




Of cause i know ill get enemies and i have no problem with that. My problem is that there are game mechanics that allow them to make my life more difficult than it allready is because of their oppinion.

Some jedi/people think that BH's are one of the coolest parts of the game and adds content, some people think BH's are a pain and should be removed from the game and some does not care but still mindlessly rushes to ban you on sight just because you are a BH... I don't think that there should be game mechanics that allow their oppinion to grief my profession as they can now if they want.



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Eskie
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:41 am
#23



Berdelsan wrote:


Eskie wrote:


Berdelsan wrote:
Our profession is about causing harm, i do what my profession allows me to do. Thats my job. Im doing nothing wrong, im just playing my professions like its supposed to be. But not all people see it that way and the system allows them to grief us for whatever reason they have.

I think its wrong.. Perhaps you should be banned from every city for being "template pending"? hehe

Message Edited by Berdelsan on 07-29-2005 01:20 PM




"Template pending" is not causing harm to anybody, and if you choose to attack a Jedi in a city its your fault. Talk about choosing the best location and time for your first strike.
A city has every right to ban everybody causing harm to their residents. You knew you would make enemies when picking up BH, right?




Of cause i know ill get enemies and i have no problem with that. My problem is that there are game mechanics that allow them to make my life more difficult than it allready is because of their oppinion.

Some jedi/people think that BH's are one of the coolest parts of the game and adds content, some people think BH's are a pain and should be removed from the game and some does not care but still mindlessly rushes to ban you on sight just because you are a BH... I don't think that there should be game mechanics that allow their oppinion to grief my profession as they can now if they want.



I agree that banning on sight for just wearing a BH title or having the MBH badge is lame. I myself have the MBH badge and frequently get a "who are you here for" question even though I dropped BH some time ago.
However, being banned after actually attacking within city limits is fair game.



Eskona Runningstar
12pt Master Doctor - Master Riflewoman
Light Jedi Padawan
-ERI- medical supplies CLOSED

Left to explore new galaxies far, far away
after this galaxy had been enhanced far too much for her taste
cchabot
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:41 am
#24






Berdelsan wrote:

I don't think that there should be game mechanics that allow their oppinion to grief my profession as they can now if they want.




And i don't think there should be a game mechanic that allows you to grief my profession.. Still does neither of us any good to think this does it? :-)


Honestly i cheer the people who banned you, stylish and well done :-)





Esta
Jedi Knight
Sunfall Rebels Chimaera


UTech
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:45 am
#25






KOLBROOKIE wrote:
Ok this is the mess im in now on gorath most jedi have the best crafters on the server,


so to get the best weapons and armour you got to buy from them,but if you are banned from most citys and most jedi have the best crafters on the server,


how can we as mbh get this good equipment, im not in a guild been kicked out of so many for hunting there jedi friends,


most crafter dont want to now me because ive killed there jedi or killed jedi they now ,


what can be done to help the most fear bh in the galaxy.guilds dont want to now me well the good ones dont cos i killed there poor jedi


now im being excluded from all good armour and weaponsmiths shops

ive been looking for 2 weeks 24 hours a day

there is no bh guilds all jedi now


can anyone help me



You know how BH's are always saying that we knew we'd be hunted if we became Jedi, and how we shouldn't have become Jedi if we didn't want to deal with forced PvP..? I think you can draw your own conclusions on where I'm going with this....




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Berdelsan
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:48 am
#26


cchabot wrote:


Berdelsan wrote:

I don't think that there should be game mechanics that allow their oppinion to grief my profession as they can now if they want.

And i don't think there should be a game mechanic that allows you to grief my profession.. Still does neither of us any good to think this does it? :-)

Honestly i cheer the people who banned you, stylish and well done :-)






I would like to see shuttle banning removed but you want my prefession/me removed?

Is this here most would say: "drag yourself to your own board and nerf yourself as you are best at and let us talk about problems targeting our profession?"

Message Edited by Berdelsan on 07-29-2005 01:51 PM



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