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Thread: Publish 20 Feedback

Gawzeera
Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:32 am
#157


The changes brought in by this publish are nothing more than a way to setup the new FRS.

Padawans can grind safe and sound in groups and on kashyyyk.

Us BH's are left with having to deal with full templates on other planets. as hunting jedi now requires you to be master BH and to do the mission 1 V 1 its an easy way for the jedi to gain FRS points.


90% of jedi have Mdefender, this means that no matter how good a BH you are you will still loose thnx to avoid incap. I have seen a single Mdefender with avoid incap on getting beat down by 5-10 jedi and non jedi and he still stays standing and get to run away.

how can we possibly hope to compete with that? added to that there are far to many people using the pathing exploit on kashyyyk and the double hit exploit, both of which the devs care nothing about cause its the jedi thats using them.






"Jedi. Their order is a fading light in the dark. corrupt and arrogant.They must be punished." - Asaj Ventress Clone wars Micro series
MadDog36
Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:42 am
#158

As a Jedi AND a MBH, I have to say I am considerably disappointed by this Publish. I spent 90 min trying to get marks, and I was able to get 1. OUT OF 10 MISSIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!


5were offline, 3 were on Kash, 1 was in space. By the time I got to that 1, he was in his house napping.


If this is not going to be real time, then what is the POINT!??!?!?!?!!??


Most Jedi relish the thought of fighting BHs, I certainly do. It needs to be easier to find Jedi, not harder.


You need to be able to find jedi on Kash, that needs to be changed immediately. The anonymous thing needs to be either changed, or the terms need to be updated real time.





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Rob-Roy
Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:14 am
#159

Tanks, this thread is flowing onto 9 pages. Are we going to get some feed back from your end of the desk? I'm not going to assume what your job entails, but I would think you have some feedback to offer. As to why something is done way, and another is done another way. Looks to me the changes made with Pub 20, are going to make your job easy.


I've been second in command of BHA on tempest for some time, and I have worked through most of the changes that have come our way. But this one seems to take the "cake" for a few BH's across the servers.


Again some reasoning would be nice from you, to help us understand the changes, instead of walking blindy through them.



Thanks,


Rob-Roy


Clearing Vision for you!


Leinado
Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:33 am
#160

I had similar experiences as far as tracking offline jedi but... it is possible to take full template jedi without spending a bunch in equipment. I'm mbh/mcm/0004 pistoleer. I've had two losses and they were because of the KD bug. Not a big deal. Learn how to use your professions. Stick some good enhanced poison/fire on a defender and they go down as easy as anyone else. Most jedi panic so they dont think to hit AI. Hasnt been an issue. I'm not claiming i'm super-leet or whatever. But send a tell to Deadsy on Lowca (/tell SWG.Lowca.Deadsy) and we can talk about it more. Its definitely buggy and needs to be fixed, but its not impossible.



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Auraveda
Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:44 am
#161

Ok, here's my experience from last night, running missions out of Kaadra:

1st mission: Not online

2nd mission: Mark located on Talus. I tracked her out into the wilderness grinding/hunting with a few other Jedi. I never recieved a name. After a long battle I got my ass handed to me. The jedi stood over my body spouting such witticisms as "Moron" and "Aowned!" *sigh* At least I destroyed her bike.

3rd mission: Not online

4th mission: Turned out Jedi was already on Naboo, in Theed. It looked like he was just running some errands though, not starport dueling. I caught him in the starport and held my own for a while, but he had superior tactics and beat me. From him I recieved a respectful bow over my corpse. Refreshing.


Reading through this thread it sounds like I was lucky to only get a 50% offline rate.

I'm going to spend the next few days tweaking my template and getting some better gear. I used to only hunt 100k-180k marks, because I knew with those I at least had a chance with the skills I had. Since I no longer have the luxury of choosing the lvl of my mark I need to make myself the best I can be and as prepared as possible, because odds are most of the missions I pull are going to be the folks who were 220k+ in the old system.

Knowing the faction is wonderful though. I wish they'd done that ages ago.





I had a Force sensitive character, with 23 and a half boxes ground out.
I had a master creature handler.
I had a high lvl crafter character.
I had a Bounty Hunter that I hunted PC Jedi with.

My game is dead.

JeruTheDamager
Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:02 am
#162

Hey Tiggs , thanks for BREAKING AN ALREADY BROKEN GAME. EVERYONE ON THE GCW FORUM WANTS JEDI REMOVED FROM THE GCW!! WHY ISNT ****THAT*** IN THE PUBLISH 20. You poeople are too lazy to think. ANY BH Should be able to hunt Jedi, ALL THE GCW people want us to do it. ANd BH PROFESSION isnt actually a POWER GAMER proff, I hate to break it to you. Its better to just get BH to hunt jedi and spend the rest of your skill points on USEFULL specials like heal and CM poison and master rifleman and stopping shot. Now we have to WASTE OUR ALREADY CUT back skillpoints from CU on Master BH, who have weak specials like critical shot, which doesnt do CRAP in PVP. All my BH missions on jedi I use rifleman, CM , and pistoleers specials. BH specials are a waste of action pool. JANgo fett is turning over in his grave. Not to mention that you fixed NONE of the prexisting bugs in the game( line of sight, cant kill a target if his FOOT alone is sticking in a wall but his whole body is exposed, creature mount bugs, wookiee roar does nothing, Coughing bug when incapped).


TIGGS WHY THE HELL ARE YOU ASKING FOR ANY NEW BUGS FROM PUNLISH 20 WHEN YOU HAVENT FIXED ALL THE OLD BUGS!!!!!


Thats just INSULTING, to imply that youre going to fix ANYTHING in the game by incouraging people to report bugs. Yeah youll fix them, yeah right , is that why people are still using aggro exploits to destroy turrets???




Grimjakk
Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:07 am
#163






Tanks wrote:

Please provide feedback on missions, including your success or failure, number of missions on Kashyyyk, your template. On successful missions include the final payment amount for Jedi missions.


If there is a bug post it on the Pub. 20 bug thread that is started by Tiggs, and /bug it in game.


Thanks.






Played for about 4 hours last night.


Me: Grimjakk Ghostripper (MBH, MC, CM2xxx), Proton Carbine (level 2 damage slice and a SAC pup), Battle Armor (6k/6k),


Tallies: 15 Jedi missions - 1 NPC mission



  • 10 Jedi missions were offline when I attempted to launch the Arakyd.

  • 2 Jedi missions were on Kash. Couldn't find either.

  • 2 Jedi missions logged before I could track them down. (1 of the Kash missions)

  • 1 Jedi mission aborted itself (another BH got the kill, perhaps?)

  • 1 Jedi mission resulted in a great stand up fight. /tiphat Brent


Obviously offline missions aren't getting pulled from the terminals or there is a considerable amount of time before they do get pulled. This was extremely un-fun. The old system (addfriend/removefriend) wouldn't have taken me an hour of going from terminal-to-spynet-to-launch-to-terminal to finally find a live one.



  • Suggestion: Get the offline missions off of the terminals more quickly, or give us an indication of online status when we accept the mission.

The 2 Kash missions were just frustrating. I ran every instance of Ryatt twice and hit several other spots that I know of Jedi grinding. Took hours. Seeker droids CAN be launched on Kash... which will keep you aware of your marks online/offline status... one mark logged in the middle of the search, the other one must have been tucked into an instanced dungeon.Never getting the name is a game killer. I'll never waste my time there again. Another extremely un-fun experience.



  • Suggestion: We can launch seekers. Let a "seek" mode launch return the name of the mark.

But all of that was made up for in the one that didn't get away. This full-temp Jedi could've escaped with Root/Cloak at any point, but wanted the fight. He'd destroyed another BH earlier, so was kinda shocked when I won. I was kinda shocked too. It was fun and he was a good sport. The total payout was 221k.





Grimjakk Ghostripper / Master Bounty Hunter - Sunrunner
Where DEATH has no price, LIFE has no value.
"You're no Jedi. You're just someone with a fancy sword and a few parlor tricks."
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:12 am
#164

Good post Grimjakk - incidentally one of my favorite comic characters.



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SunSpy
Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:28 am
#165

Things I like:


1) Faction on the mark....I thank you and my friends list thanks you.


Things I don't like


1) Still getting a significant amount of missions on offline Jedi.


2) Not getting name after selecting "Seek" option on the seeker droid.


3) Missions on Jedi located on Kashyyk wasting a lot of time. Could we maybe just have Jedi on Kash fall into the same category as offline Jedi or have a notation next to them when the mission generates? Prolific waste of time to have 8 out of 10 come back from there.


4) TEF doesn't seem to always work....Jedi can still accept rides from friends and I had one Jedi run into a cantina that I couldn't go into while I was chasing and shooting him.





Mordah Darkwave

Rebel Pilot Ace/Retired Master Bounty Hunter
rdpmackie
Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:24 am
#166

publish 20 works just fine for me.

killed 3 mid-lvl jedi off of kashyyk yesterday in about 3 hours...got paid a total of almost 400k wich is not too bad for 3 hours of play when compared to other combat profs.

having the name or not had no impact on the success of these bounties...all the jedi i got were on dant, grinding in groups, and probably not paying too much attention to what was going on which is what happens when they're grinding mindlessly for hours and hours, days and days. the name thing actually turned out to be a wash with regards to time required to kill the mark...now i'm not handed the names and locations of noob jedi, but i also don't waste my time hunting jedi of my own faction only to have to wait until i find the mark to figure that out and drop the bounty.

All-in-all i don't mind the publish, and if jedi wanna cry enough about it, i could care less if they didn't tell me the name at any stage in the hunt. This will also get rid of many of the mediocre, lazy respec BH's whioch will be very good for our prof. maybe we can go back to being what we once were...skilled members of a truly elite proffession.

the only pisser about this publish was all the offline jedi on the terms...that is the main thing i think needs to be fixed

Message Edited by rdpmackie on 07-20-2005 12:31 PM



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REDLION78
Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:25 am
#167


Well...


I am not leaving, However if I was the quiting sort, I would not even bother with this post. I feel at this point there is nothing for me in this game. I do not want to be a Jedi and my career as a MBH is essentially over. I think that this game is now broken beyond all repair. I really hope that there are plans for a SWG2. I will most likley play the game now only as a way to pass time when really bored. I wish I could say that the changes were good, but that simply isnt possible.


Thanks

BlueGlowy
Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:26 am
#168


[b]"NPC Bounty missions will now work properly. The Mark will be of appropriate difficulty based on the difficulty of the mission "[/b]



This is much improved. Not perfect but close enough. Prior to Pub 20, my Novice BH (currently CL21) would take the easiest mission difficulty rating available on the terminals..("Mission Difficulty 15") and end up chasing down what turned out to be a CL54 - 62 mark. No go.


Today, he takes a mission difficulty of 20 or 21 and gets an NPC mark of CL20 - 24. I took one mission at Difficulty22, and got an NPC mark at CL24 with yellow chevrons bracketing it's name. It's 8+k HAM and the power of it's attacks were too much for me though.


I don't know if this was always an issue, but I do get a lot of NPC mark waypoints over the water on northeast Corellia. Since the system is smart enough to figure out there's a problem once I travel to close to the WP and auto-deletes the mission for me, I'm wondering if this could just be done up front - and not generate the mission over the water in the first place. Pub 20 was a step in the right direction, and amidst the usual complaints about Jedi vs BH, I just wanted to put that feedback out there.



DotComDewd
Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:01 am
#169

7 missions pulled... 7 offline I gave up






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