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Thread: Balanced way to reveal cloakers......?
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Vcardossk wrote:Lets try and think of any, and dont' just cram them in bh because you think you should have everything in one profesion.. Put a reason why you think it should be there.
... along with a reason why Force Cloak should be able to be broken aside from running the Jedi using it out of Force or preventing him from cloaking in the first place.
Drah-cir wrote:
hmm.. either master commando or 0040 ranger should be the ones that get reveal cloak
Heh. We can't reveal them, but we can track them.
Jedi shouldn't get consistant cloak. the time of it should be something like the duration of a burstrun for the cloak timer. So that they have to actually leave or enter an area undetected; instead of just walking a set distance away from players to be less hurtful on the force drain..
maybee a 45 second cooldown timer between uses of cloak.
the end.
EDIT:btw all BHs say they hate cloakers because they run away and that they only hunt because of the fight and not beacuse of the money... Well drop the mission and duel the jedi! It's the same fight and the jedi is not going to run away, because there is no risk of losing xp.
Message Edited by KaliMaul on 08-09-2005 02:09 PM
TBH any Jedi with an ounce of skill would still be able to cloak and be out of range with force run within 2 or 3 shots at most, so the window of opportunity for the BH would be small to say the least.
Ourha wrote:
There should be a BH attack which gives a small, (note the word "small") chance to break cloak.
TBH any Jedi with an ounce of skill would still be able to cloak and be out of range with force run within 2 or 3 shots at most, so the window of opportunity for the BH would be small to say the least.
You can still do it, if anything is close you can use aoe attacks... most of the time they break cloak because of a bug or I dunno.
MBH since when I bought the game.
And Dark Jedi Knight.
In my opinion, cloak should simply be moved to master powers: cloak is a powerful skill, but I don't think that it should be nerfed. IF they move it to master powers, low lvl paddy would not be able to use cloak as a tool to avoid exp loss.
And I can assure you that Master Powers would not be very common anyway, because it is extremely underpowered compared to MDef or other templates.
That being said.. As a DJK, I wouldn't run from a BH. My template is complete anyway, I will stay and fight, no matters if I lose (not to mention that nowadays it is quite uncommon to be attacked by more than 1 BH at a time).
Did I get MPowers for cloak? Not really, I got it because it makes me feel like a Dark Jedi 
Why do I like cloak? Because it is a powerful PvE tool. It is also extemely valuable to sneak in an enemy city and check how many overts there are. And it is lovely to try and escape from a GCW fight when the enemy MLS/dmg dealers finally realize who is the Jedi that is keeping them intimidated and KD 
Well i think to balance cloak you need to look at what it actually is / does. Its totally unrealistic, even inthe star wars universe, for a jedi to just 'become invisible' in the middle of a fight when the BH he's fighting is looking directly at him. Jedi cloak, as it states, clouds peoples vision, miss direction ... and we all know that jedi mind tricks only work on weak minded fools - is that what SOE thinks of us MBHs?
I think it should be changed so that it only cloaks the jedi from people who aren't within line of sight, therefore, the jedi would have to run pretty far away from any BH chasing him to be able to cloak him self. I also think, that it should have a good chance of breaking when being used against anenemy the Jedi has been fighting, especially in the case of aBH, whowould be actively looking for him ... and especially if he's standing 10m away!
i am talking area attacks. also, bomb droids should be able to follow, and disrupt cloak upon detonation. the jedi, of course, can uncloak for a sec and destroy the droid in 1 shot, then recloak.
there are a few ways to balance it - as it is now, it is a little annoying.
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BHM wrote:
MBH since when I bought the game.
And Dark Jedi Knight.
In my opinion, cloak should simply be moved to master powers: cloak is a powerful skill, but I don't think that it should be nerfed. IF they move it to master powers, low lvl paddy would not be able to use cloak as a tool to avoid exp loss.
And I can assure you that Master Powers would not be very common anyway, because it is extremely underpowered compared to MDef or other templates.
That being said.. As a DJK, I wouldn't run from a BH. My template is complete anyway, I will stay and fight, no matters if I lose (not to mention that nowadays it is quite uncommon to be attacked by more than 1 BH at a time).
Did I get MPowers for cloak? Not really, I got it because it makes me feel like a Dark Jedi
Why do I like cloak? Because it is a powerful PvE tool. It is also extemely valuable to sneak in an enemy city and check how many overts there are. And it is lovely to try and escape from a GCW fight when the enemy MLS/dmg dealers finally realize who is the Jedi that is keeping them intimidated and KD
I am fine with Padis using it to escape, I just dont like the recruiter campers that attack while cloaked and stay cloaked for some reason. You have to check your combat log to find out who was beating on you 30 secs after declaring, that seems slightly overpowered to me.