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DarkReshi

Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:22 pm

I understand That it should be a very hard battle to kill a full temp, or nearly full temp jedi. And I believe a jedi should have the upper hand, eventually. Not from the beginning of battle. We have no first strike, we have no surprise attack. Its all garbage. They know when we are after them, because of duel Exploit and radar. I read in another post, about a great idea. The idea was to have a skill that disrupted your location on the radar. That will give us the ability for Most veteran BH to sneak, and bring the fun back into it. Nowmost Bh drive up in a speeder, jump off and attack with out hesitation. Now usually attacking without hesistation is good in a fight. But not when hunting jedi.

A Fully Templated Knight should be "concerned about a BH", and as of now they arent at all.they want The BH to come so they have something to do. And Since The newest publish of the terms, you have basically shutdown all expectations of New BH. When i first started hunting a long long time ago, I hunted lower levels to get the feel of things, not to gank them. It would be a even match since i was new, and they were just getting into jedi. And the battle would go on. usually the BH would win, if the jedi didnt use his head right. But now about 9/10 of the jedi on the terms, are there because they want to be. You Cant expect to have an enjoyable match when the Jedi can locate the BH after him by doing some /duel commands. Buff up and have every advantage that you should of had but dont. If i was a New BH i would give up in about 3 days with this new system. Cause they dont know that there are weaker jedi on the terms. For all they know every jedi will be that tough. The weak Bh will be laughed and degraded in front of the jedi's friends, Because the jedi will think he is all high and mighty becasue he defeated someone weaker then him. I just think we should have better sneaking abilites.

Know i dont mind Jedi at all. Only thing i hate is AFK grinders, but it looks like that problem is being solved slowly. I dont care that they lose EXP, i mean it really doesnt matter to me if they did or didnt. At first i did not feel this way, because We BH were told to control the jedi Pop. That is over, the jedi are popping up in every town major city, in the galaxy. They are like rabbits screwing, A few humps will bring 4 or 5 , turn away and You have an army ready to go. The jedi Pop was not watched close enough by the devs, for money reasons that is. But besides that we are no longer Controling the population. Although ther still should be some exp lose due to deaths and such.

The only actual Template that can take a full template it seems is. MBH,MR/MC, 4000 CM

Now whats the fun in that, a bunch of BH running around with the same temp killing jedi that are not scared. And ther should be a Scricter punishment for Full Temp jedi that are defeated by a MBH. Dont know what but ther should be one.

Now im sure all of you know at Least one Jedi that thinks he can take on the world, and im sure there are. But i know a very BH that can take MLS MD MLS Master Enhancer. But they all have the same template. Give Us sneaking ability and maybe we can move up a few notches to the standing point of a full temp jedi.

Well i may have forgot to mention something, But i think i covered most of what needed to be said.

Any input would be great. Even from jedi, if its positive. If you got a negative argument, that fine explain it dont come in Guns blazing and start your B*******.

Thanks

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Jisrael

Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:50 pm

#2

there is a neat little skill that the FOTM BH's have , its called cover ( yes its a rifleman skill, but as i say , most BH are riflemen, including myself), it cloaks you from radar and from regular players.

try adjusting you template in order to get this skill , if you are finding it impossible to suprise/first strike an oponent.

Play or quit..... there is no whine.

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freakenwyld

Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:12 pm

#3

DarkReshi wrote:

We have no first strike, we have no surprise attack. Its all garbage. They know when we are after them, because of duel Exploit and radar. I read in another post, about a great idea.

First of all....there are MANY reasons why a Jedi knows that you are after them. They are not ALL exploits and it pretty much has nothing to do with the radar.

It seems to me, MOST of the bounty hunters do not try to get a surprise attack. Let me tell you how I know when a bounty hunter is after me.

1) sitting cloaked in the middle of nowhere on talus. bounty hunter comes up to his waypoint and says, "I love cloak". DOH!! guess he didnt want to surprise me.

2) sitting in my house. blue dot appears on my overhead map. do an /ex "name" and guess what....he has mastered the bounty hunter profession. I watch him, he stops right outside my house and sends me a tell..."come out so I can kill you". Again, not wanting the surprise.

3) grinding in a group (even before no visibility). See a blue dot on the overhead map. 3-4 jedi run in different directions. Bounty hunter follows his mark and then sits outside the house that the jedi is hiding in. Closer to a surprise attack, but not quite winning the best surprise award.

4) sitting in my house and get a /tell or email from some unknown person wanting to sell me a premium pearl/crystal. I have no idea who this is, so how would he know if I want a pearl/crystal or not. DEFINITE bounty hunter. I then do a /findfriend on this name, and guess what?? I can track him all the way from the kaadara bh terms to my house which is on dantooine.

All 4 of these examples HAVE HAPPENED. It seems to me, that MOST bounty hunters dont WANT the surprise attack. It also makes me believe that the bounty hunters that do these things really dont know HOW to hunt. Most importantly, they dont want to LEARN. I have had bounty hunters attack me when I wasnt expecting it. (ie: while trying to travel and I have the starship terminal open)

To sum all this up, there are MANY ways for jedi to know exactly which bounty hunter is after them. Not all Jedi exploit.

Skizzy BigIz

WoLpAcK

Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:16 pm

#4

ever thought that some bh's dont have all day to wait and "learn when your 3/4 out of force"

alot of bh's get sick after every jedi they go after is in a house or on kashyyyk and they just want a fight ..win or loose. Nothing wrong with the skill just people get tired of the same ol crap.

Ant.Pro.
-IDSA-

Pink-Floyd

Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:21 pm

#5

Cover is all well and good... if you enjoy moving 1 meter every minute or so
not to mention anything you go near discovers you (including your own swoop)

I say give MBH a special camouflage or "stalk" cloak kinda thing

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Zemon

Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:42 pm

#6

WoLpAcK wrote:

ever thought that some bh's dont have all day to wait and "learn when your 3/4 out of force"

alot of bh's get sick after every jedi they go after is in a house or on kashyyyk and they just want a fight ..win or loose. Nothing wrong with the skill just people get tired of the same ol crap.

WoLpAcK, please try not to take this personally. Your comment just opened the door to a general rant. It is in no way directed at you personally.

Interestingly enough, the first branch of the Bounty Hunter's tree is "Investigations".

in-ves-ti-ga-thion
1. The act of process of investigating.
2. A detailed inquiry or systematic examination.
3. An inquiry into unfamiliar or questionable activities.
4. The work of inquiring into something thoroughly and systematically.

The next three branches contain weapons. Although fighting is the most enjoyable part of the BH profession, it is not the only part. The BH needs to learn the art or skill of investigation before becoming successful. I feel the one who complains that the Jedi are always hiding or running are not looking for the satisfaction of the hunt, but rather the satisfaction of the fight (PvP). Instead of complaining about the Jedi not letting you fight with them, complain about the Galactic Cival War. I think most BH become BH because they can not find enough PvP.

Try going Special Forces (Overt) and taking a few bases down. After you do this a few times, the owns of the bases and turrets will want revenge and a strike, counter-strike will be organized. You will have your PvP then.

ZEMON "The Zany Zabrak" KIMBALL
Elder Jedi * Leader of IMPS * Anyone seen a BH?
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EAMON "Lone Wolf" KIMBALL
Elder Bounty Hunter * IMPS * /bountycheck; /accept;

Should you defeat me in battle, have the courtesy to /spit on my corpse. For I am Imperial and you are Rebel scum!

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DarkReshi

Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:53 pm

#7

Jis, Apparently u werent listening when i said that everyone is the same profession, and that is boring. I am Master Carbs, and im staying thati dont think it is right that because ur a rifleman you should get to sneak and no other BH can, which doesnt work unless u have about 4 hours to spend crawling.

And as for the Cloak comment, I said veteran BH. A Good BH doesnt just run up on a jedi. With the sneak ability u would not see him on radar, and u wouldnt just activate your cloak for no reason now would you. Cover all bases before u present argument.

Message Edited by DarkReshi on 08-02-2005 06:53 PM

Message Edited by DarkReshi on 08-02-2005 06:54 PM

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Zemon

Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:58 pm

#8

Pink-Floyd wrote:

Cover is all well and good... if you enjoy moving 1 meter every minute or so
not to mention anything you go near discovers you (including your own swoop)

I say give MBH a special camouflage or "stalk" cloak kinda thing

Message Edited by Pink-Floyd on 08-02-2005 06:21 PM

Crawl speed is governed by your "Terrain negotiation" skill level. 1-50 affects your ability to move up hill and over terain. 50-100 affects your crawl speed.

At Scout 4/0/0/0 you will have Terrain Negaotion +40. Force Sesitive Reflexes 0/0/0/3 will give you an additional +5. A loot neclace from the Nyax hideout (his men drop it) will give you an aditoinal +5. A BE shirt (warn under your armor) will give you +18 (+/- a few). Then CA's and AA's. Or you can add Ranger. At Ranger2/0/0/0 you will get +25.

Point is, play the game and use the tools available. Be a true warrior; adapt and overcome. Soon, you will be crawlingfaster than the Voritor.

ZEMON "The Zany Zabrak" KIMBALL
Elder Jedi * Leader of IMPS * Anyone seen a BH?
<-------------~~~~~ :IMPS: ~~~~~------------->
EAMON "Lone Wolf" KIMBALL
Elder Bounty Hunter * IMPS * /bountycheck; /accept;

Should you defeat me in battle, have the courtesy to /spit on my corpse. For I am Imperial and you are Rebel scum!

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freakenwyld

Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:00 pm

#9

WoLpAcK wrote:

ever thought that some bh's dont have all day to wait and "learn when your 3/4 out of force"

alot of bh's get sick after every jedi they go after is in a house or on kashyyyk and they just want a fight ..win or loose. Nothing wrong with the skill just people get tired of the same ol crap.

How about instead of sitting in my house waiting for a bounty hunter to come and fight me, I stand outside. Heck, I wont even have any buffs, foods, or macros.

Just because a Jedi is in a house, does NOT mean that they arent looking to fight a bh. Try it sometimes.

Skizzy BigIz

WoLpAcK

Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:02 pm

#10

isnt that ruining the art of suprise that jedi are always trying to instruct us in?

Ant.Pro.
-IDSA-

DarkReshi

Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:02 pm

#11

Now the attachments, yes but that will make you move from 150 Meters per Hour to 175mph. And now im sure with the extra skill boxes yes it would help crawling. But then that would take away from the more important fighting skills. So your saying you will be able to crawl fast up to them, but when u finally reach u do little damge, or have slow speed or low accuracy. And the problem is only rifle man can hide. And it isnt even agood hidingskill at that. MBH should have a "stalk" ability.

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DarkReshi

Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:17 pm

#12

Freaken, Your missing the point. FIRST STRIKE, this will knock a opponent off gaurd making them vulnurable. If you ask for the fight thats means the jedi will be focused, attentive and confident. Something a BH trys to weaken and gain the upper hand. And im sure some do that but many i know dont like that way. It takes the fun out. This game is Supposed to be like Star Wars, Had Boba/Janga Fett Walked up to a jedi and said, I would like to kill you, Can you come out and play. And then the jedi locks his door and says no. What is this the 3 little pigs. "Not by the hairs on my chinny chin chin" (the jedi thinks in his head) ". Dont get me wrong a jedi has the right to hide in his house. But in the real SWG-"Beep Beep, Click Clickity Click, Ping.....

Missile ARMED" "Boom" his house would be now more. or more discreetly. DING DONG, u have a package or a delivery, and Bam. Something to that nature. Altough i know that would create complications

Now i now what ur saying about some BH, there just in it for the quick kill. But alot of my guild is not. Of course some times it calls for such actions, running up and destroying ur target with out notice. But most of the time you should study ur opponent. But u cant do that because of radar and so many other things. Just saying a new stalk option would be nice.

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sippinonswerve

Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:31 pm

#13

give me the ability to stalk an opponent unseen and unnoticed untill i can hammer him at the exact crucial time when hes low on health or force and jedi will be screaming nerf in under 1 day. I garuntee if bh's had anything similar to cloak even if it did break in 30 meters of anyone and the jedi forum would explode because having that would mean that it was soley up to me weather i win or lose cause id stalk them for hours untill they were at a point where they had only a few hundred health left and then hit them with 1 advanced sniper shot go for the db and 250k in my bank. All these jedi posturing about suprise and sneaking around know there spewing a line of crap give us the tool to do it and they crying would never stop.

DarkReshi wrote:

Freaken, Your missing the point. FIRST STRIKE, this will knock a opponent off gaurd making them vulnurable. If you ask for the fight thats means the jedi will be focused, attentive and confident. Something a BH trys to weaken and gain the upper hand. And im sure some do that but many i know dont like that way. It takes the fun out. This game is Supposed to be like Star Wars, Had Boba/Janga Fett Walked up to a jedi and said, I would like to kill you, Can you come out and play. And then the jedi locks his door and says no. What is this the 3 little pigs. "Not by the hairs on my chinny chin chin" (the jedi thinks in his head) ". Dont get me wrong a jedi has the right to hide in his house. But in the real SWG-"Beep Beep, Click Clickity Click, Ping.....

Missile ARMED" "Boom" his house would be now more. or more discreetly. DING DONG, u have a package or a delivery, and Bam. Something to that nature. Altough i know that would create complications

Now i now what ur saying about some BH, there just in it for the quick kill. But alot of my guild is not. Of course some times it calls for such actions, running up and destroying ur target with out notice. But most of the time you should study ur opponent. But u cant do that because of radar and so many other things. Just saying a new stalk option would be nice.

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