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Thread: The effects of the new BH loot

rob0t
Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:33 pm
#1

Everyone is making such a big uproar over the new drops for the BH NPC missions. I may be alone on this, but I think it needs to be said.


This will ruin the BH profession.


Why? Well, I'm glad you asked.


Let's take a look at the drops. So far we have BH armor schematics and high quality SEA's.


How many BH are on your server? Chances are, at least 1/3 of the players are BH's. There are quite a few on mine. (Though the numbers are diminishing due to the 'I'm not getting my way, so I quit' syndrome).


With that in mind, how many people do you forsee running around in BH armor? Probably a lot. Every newb BH will be wearing it, because "it rox0rz!!11".


That doesn't bother me as much as the SEA's. There are a few things that bug me about them.


1. The drop rate.





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WoLpAcK
Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:38 pm
#2


If the devs are gonna try prevent us from hunting jedi they have to give us something to make this profession worth while...lol however its funny how alot of the loot is for jedi use...ever get the feelingyour are being nerfed?


ESINOTH


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Actairr
Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:40 pm
#3

I like loot and also like having a reason to do NPC missions when hunting jedi gets boring. BH is one of the only profs with content and I am glad we are getting more.
rob0t
Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:42 pm
#4

Apparently I can't edit my post, so I'll continue with where I left off.

1. The drop rate.

What makes things so valuable? Rarity. Increased drop rates will make SEA's decrease in value. There goes your money making scheme, poser BH's.

2. The jedi effects

Most jedi have a BH alt. That being said, they will farm and farm and farm until they get the SEA's they need. You won't sell anything to a Jedi, I promise.

Also, since a lot of BH's are refusing to hunt Jedi (to bore them out of existance I guess), their numbers will rise. This will unlock new BH alts to flood the market with new SEA's!!

3. The 'edge'

No one will have an edge any more. Your Jedi's+25 ranged defense will counteract your +25 ranged accuracy. Their +25 2 handed saber speed will kill you faster than you can imagine. Does anyone else see a problem with this?

I don't suppose that any of this will matter to the masses. I've only been playing for about 3 months, but I consider myself to be a pretty intelligent person, and I don't concern myself with the here and now, but the big picture.

Stop being blinded by the loot and thing about the effects it will have.






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mickolakis
Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:45 pm
#5


double post

Message Edited by mickolakis on 08-01-2005 04:49 PM



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mickolakis
Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:48 pm
#6


lol seems i put my 2 cents in the wrong thread, here it is for those interested



TBH i don't think it will make that much of a difference.


The stats on the BH armour schematics don't look that hot compared to waht a good armoursmith can make, just average assault stats.


No BH worth his money is gonna wear the stuff while he's out hunting, just like we don't wear our MBH tags, kinda ruins the element of suprise.


not every elite mark is gonna drop stuff, probably have the same drop rate as nightsisters i think. i spent all afternoon on dath hitting the NS stronghold and got 4 smuggler drops, 2 colour crytsal and a white LS crystal plus assorted crap. i musta killed about 50, and the new missions are gonna be a lot longer than waiting for hgh level nightsisters to spawn.


most ppl here are BHs for the thrill of the chase and most of us apart from the elite PvP'ers probably don't make a huge amount of money from it considering our success rate vs Jedi and the amount we spend on kit and stims/food


IMO teh elite mark drops will be a nice little side line for money making and will hopefully drop a nice attatchment we can use every now and again




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Mickol - Ranger
Manco - Squad Leader
WoLpAcK
Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:49 pm
#7







rob0t wrote:
Apparently I can't edit my post, so I'll continue with where I left off.

1. The drop rate.

What makes things so valuable? Rarity. Increased drop rates will make SEA's decrease in value. There goes your money making scheme, poser BH's.

2. The jedi effects

Most jedi have a BH alt. That being said, they will farm and farm and farm until they get the SEA's they need. You won't sell anything to a Jedi, I promise.

Also, since a lot of BH's are refusing to hunt Jedi (to bore them out of existance I guess) lol this is happening alot on servers ive seen and its pretty funny, their numbers will rise. This will unlock new BH alts to flood the market with new SEA's!!

3. The 'edge'

No one will have an edge any more. Your Jedi's+25 ranged defense will counteract your +25 ranged accuracy. Their +25 2 handed saber speed will kill you faster than you can imagine. Does anyone else see a problem with this?

I don't suppose that any of this will matter to the masses. I've only been playing for about 3 months, but I consider myself to be a pretty intelligent person, and I don't concern myself with the here and now, but the big picture.

Stop being blinded by the loot and thing about the effects it will have.









If ya hadnt noticed the people making this game and playing itforgot about consequences and the big picture...ooo awhile back .


ow and also you forgot in about a months time theyll nerf this also...i love the devs.



ESINOTH


wipe them out.. all of them


WoLfPaCk inc.





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Vcardossk
Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:49 pm
#8






WoLpAcK wrote:


If the devs are gonna try prevent us from hunting jedi they have to give us something to make this profession worth while...lol however its funny how alot of the loot is for jedi use...ever get the feelingyour are being nerfed?


ESINOTH


wipe them out.. all of them


WoLfPaCk inc.







And how does adding pve bonus to the prof prevent you from hunting jedi? Oh wait, it doesn't.



Cardossk- "Why die now when you can kill them later?"
Mylako- "I kill only when i'm paid. And since No one's paid me to kill you yet, sleep tight."
WoLpAcK
Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:55 pm
#9






Vcardossk wrote:





WoLpAcK wrote:


If the devs are gonna try prevent us from hunting jedi they have to give us something to make this profession worth while...lol however its funny how alot of the loot is for jedi use...ever get the feelingyour are being nerfed?


ESINOTH


wipe them out.. all of them


WoLfPaCk inc.







And how does adding pve bonus to the prof prevent you from hunting jedi? Oh wait, it doesn't.






/sigh


last time i checked when some1 makes something h a r d e r ..k....its because they dont want you to do it as much...comprenday? and this loot is just something to try occupy us instead of hunting and in doing so helping jedi get more skill tapes...great thinking. However it might be fun ill give it a go i aint gonna be hunting jedi for awhile anyway thats for sure...



ESINOTH


wipe them out.. all of them


WoLfPaCk inc.





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Actairr
Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:18 pm
#10

It won't STOP anyone from hunting jedi, it WILL give us something else to do though and SWAY us from hunting jedi.

About the market thing. Well if you were around before the CU you would know this will have little effect on the overal market. Before the CU we had more ability to get loot that just these missions will give us. You could solo Nyax for really nice SEAs on a 20 minute spawn. You could solo the acklay, fire spider, gorax, krayts, NS elders ect ect and get massive ammounts of loot. If you think there are alot of BHs now, that number is nothing compared to the ammount of Swordsmen/docs and defensive stackers and riflemen pre CU that were nothing more than loot hookers. This will return us closer to pre cu looting, but it won't ruin the game.
Vcardossk
Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:24 pm
#11






WoLpAcK wrote:






Vcardossk wrote:





WoLpAcK wrote:


If the devs are gonna try prevent us from hunting jedi they have to give us something to make this profession worth while...lol however its funny how alot of the loot is for jedi use...ever get the feelingyour are being nerfed?


ESINOTH


wipe them out.. all of them


WoLfPaCk inc.







And how does adding pve bonus to the prof prevent you from hunting jedi? Oh wait, it doesn't.






/sigh


last time i checked when some1 makes something h a r d e r ..k....its because they dont want you to do it as much...comprenday? and this loot is just something to try occupy us instead of hunting and in doing so helping jedi get more skill tapes...great thinking. However it might be fun ill give it a go i aint gonna be hunting jedi for awhile anyway thats for sure...









Ah so by adding a pve mob it makes hunting jedi harder how? And don't give me that mbh nerf lol. With all the reductions in sp bh have gotten that was a fix long in the coming.


ANd who said jedi would get the skill tapes, last i check skillt apes were for everyone. If u don'tw ant to sell em to jedi DON'T.


You suck at pve and blame your marks for it comprenday?


Not every bh exists to hunt jedi, and no i'm not talking about jedi alts.



Cardossk- "Why die now when you can kill them later?"
Mylako- "I kill only when i'm paid. And since No one's paid me to kill you yet, sleep tight."
Karbal
Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:26 pm
#12

Mr. Poster ... how is adding more content for a profession game breaking??


The cool loot and schemtatics are gonna drop from the boss level marks. The boss marks AREN'T gonna pop up every time you take an npc mission. The fine print states that the MBH will have a CHANCEof a boss level mark spawning.


Now even if a boss spawns, you now must kill him. Boss to me means a double gold chevron. What other boss mobs have youseen in game? Ancient Krayt Dragon, Death Watch Overlord, Necrosis, Nightsister Elder .. see what I'm getting at? These are gonna be tough dudes to kill. Don't you think if your skilled enough to drop one of these guys that you ought to get a good loot drop?


I feel that content is a much needed aspect to this game .. no matter what profession gets it. So what if the bh community is the first to get some attention. We went almost 2 years with NO attention at all. Other professions where placed on a pedistial while the poor MBH was laughed at in PVP and PVE. So now where getting some love .. so what?


This will hopefully only be the start of much needed content for ALL the professions out there. To me, any change in a positive direction is a good change. We all (us that have been playing since launch) know that the dev team here is SLOW .. give them time and I'm sure others will get added content as well.



Karbal
Former Jedi Hunter
Jimmies_SF
Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:29 pm
#13






Vcardossk wrote:





WoLpAcK wrote:






Vcardossk wrote:





WoLpAcK wrote:





And how does adding pve bonus to the prof prevent you from hunting jedi? Oh wait, it doesn't.






/sigh


last time i checked when some1 makes something h a r d e r ..k....its because they dont want you to do it as much...comprenday? and this loot is just something to try occupy us instead of hunting and in doing so helping jedi get more skill tapes...great thinking. However it might be fun ill give it a go i aint gonna be hunting jedi for awhile anyway thats for sure...









Ah so by adding a pve mob it makes hunting jedi harder how? And don't give me that mbh nerf lol. With all the reductions in sp bh have gotten that was a fix long in the coming.


ANd who said jedi would get the skill tapes, last i check skillt apes were for everyone. If u don'tw ant to sell em to jedi DON'T.


You suck at pve and blame your marks for it comprenday?


Not every bh exists to hunt jedi, and no i'm not talking about jedi alts.





Its harder. You can't pick your targets, and if you don't get a good break and kill em quick while they're distracted you won't kill em at all, since they're full temps. And unless they're in a crowded area they'll see you coming so there is no surprise, so its kinda pointless.



The majority of skill tapes dropped have been related to jedi skills, from the posts I've read.


I don't comprenday your comprenday comment.



If would be nice if the jedi hunting process was fun for everyone. Unfortunately the whole thing is a little too unrealistic, what with radar and such and its just too much of a bother at this point for a lot of people. Jedi hunting is, however, the ultimate experience for the bounty hunter, in that there is no greater target.


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